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Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64



On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 06:17:14PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:49 -0700, Adam McKenna <adam@flounder.net> said: 
> > To volunteer means to give one's services voluntarily and free of
> > charge.  That's ALL it means.
> 
> > It doesn't imply that the volunteer can pick and choose what he
> > feels like doing.  He needs to do the job that he agreed to do.  If
> > he doesn't have the time to perform 100% of the job tasks, he still
> > 'owns' the tasks and should be responsible for delegating them to
> > other volunteers and making sure they get done.  If he doesn't, he
> > is a failure, and should either step down or be replaced.
> 
> > You and others who are advocating this alternate definition of
> > 'volunteer' should really stop it.  You are damaging the project
> > when you enable failed volunteers to justify their actions.
> 
> 	This displays a profound misunderstanding of what being a DD
>  and an office holder in Debian implies (which is surprising, seeing
>  that you are a DD).
> 
> 	Yes, I volunteered to do a job, to the best of my ability,
>  and in the best manner that I can determine. I shall do the job the
>  best way I see, and not jump when other people tell me to do
>  something else. You can't force me to work against my best judgement.

I agree with you.  You have the right to do your job however you see fit, as
long as you are *doing your job*.  If you're not doing your job, and your
excuse is that as a volunteer, nobody can force you to do anything, then you
have an attitude problem.

I don't see how passive-aggressive ignoring of people serves the goals of the
project.  Debianers who occupy important roles and are using this as a 
tactic to avoid or put off work, or simply because they don't like someone
should be removed from their positions.  Likewise, Debianers who constantly
participate in large flamewars (like this one, for example), while at the
same time complaining about their lack of time should be similiary 
scrutinized.

> 	I don't give a shit if you pass a GR. I am still going to do
>  what I signed up to do the best way I can do it.

I'm not trying to pass a GR, Manoj.  Just trying to change the attitudes that
are destroying the project.  But I guess I'm either with you or against you,
right?  Otherwise, how would you decide whether what I'm saying is right or
not?

--Adam

-- 
Adam McKenna  <adam@debian.org>  <adam@flounder.net>



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