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Re: Debian needs more buildds. It has offers. They aren't being accepted.

Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 04:08:23AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:
> > > No, that's the time for other people to offer assistance you can use. If
> > Perfectly usable assistance was offered. If some (unarguably) bonehead
> > came along, wanted to take over a jobs and got rejected no big
> > argument would have arisen. That was not the case.
> The people who get to decided whether the help is useful or not are the
> ones doing the job, not the ones offering the help. There are plenty of
> ways of demonstrating that an idea that's been rejected is a good one
> in a way that'll convince the existing delegates to change their minds;
> ranting on the lists and invoking the DPL is rarely one of them.

How do you change someones mind that isn't listening?
For all I know James has his spam filter set to ignore anything with
my name in it. Or maybe his MTA has my dynamic IP blacklisted. Who
knows, he is not telling.

Haven't had enough contact (tries) with Ryan to take a guess there but
from all I hear he is a silent type too. Either he does something or
not but you can only tell by the ripples it causes or lack thereof.

> > Blocking perfectly useable assistance for ones own ego or because the
> > other person has a curved nose or something and not for reasons with
> > any foundation is part of the problem (exagerated to wake you up).
> Well, it's a good thing that's not what's happening then, isn't it?
> > Complaining about it is the only way something can be changed short of
> > forking your own project. 
> *shrug* My experience differs, and given it includes getting a bunch
> of things done that, eg, Ryan and James have objected to in the past,
> I think that counts for something.

My experience with James is that I can't get him to react in any
way. The only way anything has happened where James seems to be the
blocking factor was asking Martin about it.

I wish it were different.


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