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Re: Future releases of Debian

On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:25:57PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > So, are you volunteering to help those of us without access to
> > either of the above architectures with "bugs" found in our packages?
> > I'm not saying that all architectures shouldn't be supported
> > equally.  I just don't have access to either of the above
> > architectures to correct problems found in my packages.
> Strange, the rest of us Debian Developers have access to all of these
> strange platforms ... http://raw.no/debian/machines.html

By "the rest of us Debian Developers" I assume you mean *full* Debian
Developers (those of you with DD accounts).  Perhaps you haven't read
the rest of this thread.  I'm not a *full* DD and thus don't have access
to all the resources a *full* DD has.  As I've inferred elsewhere this is
one of the problems with keeping NMs in queue waiting on one approval
for several months (and potentially years).

> If your package has a bug affecting arm, login to debussy and fix it.
> If your package has a bug affecting mips, login to casals and fix it.
> If your package has a bug affecting m68k, login to kullervo and fix it.

Would be happy to.  Unfortunately, I can't, don't have an account.

> If you're going to claim that you don't have the knowledge to
> investigate and fix difficult problems, perhaps you should reconsider
> whether you are able to maintain your packages?

I never claimed I didn't have the knowledge to fix it.  I stated I don't
have "access" to the architecture.  Lacking access to a resource does
not mean one lacks the knowledge of how to preform tasks on/with the

> Who is sick of this "I don't have an m68k box to fix my bug" excuse.

That's cool, because I'm a little sick of the assumptions that someone
has access to resources because they maintain X package.  Not everyone
listed on http://www.debian.org/devel/people is a full Debian Developer.
As such, not all of them have access to the resources available to full
Debian Developers, or even the rights of them.  Yet, we are expected to
function as one and are berated by some DDs when we state we don't have
access to some resources.

Jamin W. Collins

This is the typical unix way of doing things: you string together lots
of very specific tools to accomplish larger tasks. -- Vineet Kumar

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