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Re: Work-needing packages report for Jul 11, 2003

* "Jamin W. Collins" 

| On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 12:37:31PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > * "Jamin W. Collins" 
| > 
| > | And because my interests lie in packages that may not be seen as
| > | "important sections of Debian" I'm a second class applicant?
| > 
| > yes.  if you are just bolting another web gallery or editor onto
| > debian, that is far less important than if you fix bugs in
| > debian-installer, debbugs, ipv6 related packages, send in bug reports
| > and patches, etc.
| Then again the system is broken.  If second class applicants can be
| expected to work through a sponsor while they wait, so can the
| applicants working on the above packages.

They do.  They just get to wait less, since at some point (at least
for debian-installer), we get tired of applying their patches and give
them a CVS account.  After that has gone on for a while, we get tired
of uploading and checking their packages, so we pester the DAM to get
the account created.

Don't you understand that the installer is extremely much more
important to Debian than, say, Orpheus (which is just a random project
I saw on freshmeat, and which I think will be packaged in a while..)?
Catering for common Debian projects is more important than random
silly packages.

| > | And as far as I'm concerned, 60 days without any status update is
| > | too long to keep someone waiting.  There is no good reason for lack
| > | of updates.  If DAM has too much on his plate to provide a simple
| > | update then he needs to reduce the stuff on his plate and let
| > | someone else take over.
| > 
| > that is not your call to make.  It's his, and the DPL's.
| I am free to have and voice my own opinion on the matter.

Sure, just whine.

| And it's actually the Debian Developers' calls to make, if I
| understand things correctly.  The DDs have the power to change this.
| DPL is elected by them, if enough of them are unhappy with the
| situation it can be changed.

By way of a general resolution, yes.  I'll believe it when I see it.

| However, you seem to be perfectly happy with the situation as it is.

no, I'm not happy with it.  However, I'm describing what the current
status is.  I'd like the NM queue to be a lot shorter than it is, but
that is not something I can fix, and if I tried to fix it, I would
only be in the way.

Tollef Fog Heen                                                        ,''`.
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are      : :' :
                                                                      `. `' 

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