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Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)



On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
> > expect Debian developers to fix every problem.  For instance, I suppose
> 
> My problem is some developers will tell the user to submit it
> upstream, when my understanding is the devel is supposed to flag it as
> upstream and go submit it upstream themselves, since they're supposed
> to have an idea what bugs are upstream anyway, and know how to provide
> more helpful input for upstream.

And sometimes the Debian developer can't really be helpful.

I, for instance, have *never* had any luck acting as a go-between for
Debian users and upstream XFree86 problems.  The upstream XFree86 guys
*always* seem to want to deal with the user directly.

This, and the lack of a bug tracking system for the XFree86 Project,  is
why I don't mark XFree86 bugs as forwarded in the Debian BTS.

I enjoy what I think is a good working relationship with XFree86
upstream despite the fact that the Developers' Reference tells me to do
things differently than I do.  It is better to be accomodating of
upstream than to mindlessly adhere to a Debian-specific best practices
document.  In this case, our users are better served the way I'm doing
it, because that's how XFree86 wants to handle things.  Who am I to tell
them to change their ways?

-- 
G. Branden Robinson                |       Convictions are more dangerous
Debian GNU/Linux                   |       enemies of truth than lies.
branden@debian.org                 |       -- Friedrich Nietzsche
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |

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