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Re: calling Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>

On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:44:40PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 09:27:15AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > using DUL has nothing to do with "ghettos" - it is entirely to do with
> > the undisputable fact that almost all spam comes directly from dialup IP
> > addresses, sent from throw-away dialup accounts.
> I do not relay.  My ISP runs NT on its mail server.  I want my mail
> delivered and unmangled.  I would be greatly offended if my email started
> getting rejected simply because I don't have a relay set up (especially
> given that I'm running a Linux workstation here and don't NEED a relay to
> get my mail safely to where it belongs.)

But read above. The reasons for requiring a relay are quite clear
and quite valid. It doesn't matter how safe your Linux is for
delivering mail, it's just as safe for a spammer and therefore not allowed.

> Let me be the many likely to tell you where you can place your
> "acceptable manner"...  Provide me a useful mail relay and I might

Any mail relay not provided by your ISP is probably also available
to spammers. Therefore it's useless.

> consider using it.  Maybe.  Otherwise you haven't a leg to stand on as
> far as I'm concerned because I do NOT have a useful mail relay unless I'm
> it.  And yes, I have a dialup account.  So what?

Get an ISP that you can trust then.

Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). 
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