Re: spam and debian-curiosa - how I solve it once and 4 ever
Hi,
1. Check 'nomail' and 'password reminder' in your mailing lists preferences
(You would still be able to post anytime)
2a. browse the archives for new mail
2a.1. ask archive maintainersfor a more real-time (online) web archive
2b. set up automated website monitoring ('homepage has been modified' -type of
services available at several websites) with email notification (this would of
course only filter the content of the spam mail
== optional steps follow ==
3. write a patch for the maling list software which would enable subscribed
people write new/reply to messages/threads from within their account
4. mailing lists admins would weed out spam from time to time from the archive.
5. set up (write? enable?) a mail robot gateway which would allow one to
browse/retrieve messages on/from the list.
== end of optional steps ==
Regards
Csan
Quoting Adam Olsen <rhamph@d2dc.net>:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 08:13:41AM +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
> > I suspect there should be a debian-spam list to discuss this, but I'm
>
> > guessing it would act like a magnet :-)
>
> If we were to seriously attempt to setup moderation then such a list
> would be very desirable (but I'd prefer calling it debian-moderators).
>
> >
> > I also think this issue is applicable to all debian lists, it just
> seems
> > that of the lists I subscribe to, curiosa is the location this issue
> is
> > being discussed on (as others pointed out, both good and bad)
>
> Yeah.
>
> >
> > Readers to this list will know that I've asked silly questions about
> this
> > in the past, but as I see it there are a number of issues to be dealt
> with
> > regards to spam.
> >
> > i1. Postings to debian should be as open as we can make it, but this
> also
> > allows spammers to post.
> > i2. Automatic software will filter most (if not all spam), but it
> *may*
> > also filter legitimate messages.
> > i3. The amount of traffic to debian lists makes it difficult to have a
>
> > moderator for each (or all) list(s).
> > i4. spam to some is an issue to be dealt with locally at the receiver,
>
> > others feel that from a resource perspective, it is better to be dealt
> with
> > at the distribution side.
> >
> > On to the questions:
> > q1. Is there a way to only accept postings from a verifiable (at time
> of
> > posting) address?
>
> I don't think so, not without sending a test email to them that
> requires a reply. No better than simply subscribing to the list.
>
> > q2. Could we only moderate spam filtered messages by way of a pool of
>
> > moderators?
>
> This is how I envisioned it being done. I don't know how to set it up
> though.
>
> > q3. Could we create a filtered version of each list
> (debian-*-filtered) and
> > let the subscriber deal with which list to subscribe to?
>
> I think this'd lead to a fork of the lists, which'd be Bad (tm).
>
> My ideal way of setting it up would be a pool of moderators, with
> tools to automatically *allow* some people, specifically those
> subscribed and those from known-good addresses. The rest would fall
> to the moderators.
>
> I'd also like to have some sort of debian-rejected list (or atleast an
> archive for the list) that includes all the rejected mailings, for
> reference.
>
> Making it notify people if they don't get handled within an hour may
> be an additional useful feature.
>
> --
> Adam Olsen, aka Rhamphoryncus
>
>
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>
Csan
János Holányi
Hungarian Association of Linux Users
Email: csani@lme.linux.hu
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