Quoting Richard Owlett (2016-07-17 14:39:33) > On 7/17/2016 6:42 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Richard Owlett (2016-07-17 13:14:24) > >> Over the next week or so I will do a series of manual installs > >> that will begin with a standard CLI setup then use apt-get to > >> install Mate: > >> 1. using standard metapackages (with recommends activated) > >> 2. using standard metapackages (with recommends DE-activated) > >> 3. using chosen components of Mate (with recommends activated) > >> 4. using chosen components of Mate (with recommends DE-activated) > > > > In case it was not clear from my previous posts: I have *no* interest in > > your experiments with disabling recommends, not matter the outcome. > > But the results will guide me in choosing whether or not to > pursue the issue. If they turn out as I expect, it will point out > a problem with either how recommends is implemented or how it is > documented. My logical quandary is "If recommends must always be > active, why aren't they in depends?" > >> If everything required to experiment with boxer is on the DVD's, > >> I'll try it also. > > > > An old version of Boxer in included with Jessie, but development happens > > in testing/unstable, even development targeted Jessie. It makes little > > sense to play with Boxer in stable except for the work already finalized > > for that (which is only DebianParl - based on Xfce, not Mate). > > > > I recommend to explore Boxer in a testing/unstable environment, and can > > help guide you on how to create such an environment within a Jessie > > system. Tell me if that is of interest to you. > > Anything requiring installing testing/unstable/etc is *OUT*. I am > bandwidth *LIMITED*. > That is why I install ONLY from purchased DVD sets. You do *not* need testing/unstable to *use* a Boxer system profile, but *development* is done on testing or unstable. If you you insist on using purely stable Debian - even for *developing* what you are seeking, then I believe this list is the wrong place for your scriblings. > I strongly suspect I want an alternative to the installer, not to > boxer. In several places the the installer asks either the > "wrong" question, or in the "wrong" order. Stable Debian is stable - i.e. does not change behaviour. Any changes to Debian will happen in *unstable* and become *next* stable. Your help improving Debian is much appreciated. If your interest is in improving stable Debian but without using Debian unstable to do it, then I can only conclude that you are *deriving* from Debian. See https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives for inspiration. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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