Re: amd64 into mainstream
On (19/04/05 13:09), Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:45:50AM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > Now that is a good point. I am not sure that is it valid. Here is why: 500
> > desktop user vs one sys admin who uses 500 servers with debian. If the 500
> > users go away, then you have one guy who is using debian, and when he gets
> > fired, layed off, or quites, the boxes get migrated off of debian becuse
> > nobody knows how to admin them. I am not sure it is not a valid point
> > however.
> >
> > I am also unsure what the % of debian servers are vs other linux. But ok. so
> > the driving force for debian is servers. Then why am I and anybody else who
> > is interested in desktop use here? You just supported the seperation of a
> > desktop from the server branch.
> >
> > But from my prospective, I don't realy care about that one way or another. I
> > just want a usable desktop that supports my amd64 or 32bit x86 platform that
> > just works. And in that perspective, debian is being hurt by the long
> > release dates and I don't know the solution to it.
> >
> > Newer is not always better, but incremental improvment is worth using if it
> > makes your life easier. Just my 2C worth and I reserver the right to be
> > wrong.
>
> Well debian-pure64 sarge installed flawlessly on my adm64, and the
> kde3.4 packages installed perfectly too. Seemed perfectly good for a
> desktop for me. Perhaps ubuntu is easier on a laptop, but for just a
> desktop, there was nothing that didn't work with debian for me. It may
> not be official but it sure works.
I've not tried Ubuntu on my laptop (Beatrix, a simple, fast ubuntu
derivative, installed fine but 32bit). However, Debian amd64 on the
laptop is just brilliant (it's my workstation) and the 32bit chroot
just took the effort to work through the howto.
sid is a lot more stable than xp, in my experience. I've just had to
roll back the xp system on this laptop because it wouldn't respond; I
hardly use the XP system other than to run windows updates and follow
windose users through problems etc. So within three months with
virtually no use it became corrupted. In contrast, the sid system just
runs with a lot of punishment; I got a bit fed up with kde, which
crashed occasionally and not as fast as I thought it should be but now
on xfce, the machine flies.
We also run sarge on a number of servers here, many of which were on
woody until recently; the only reason they were upgraded was whim - there
was no necessity at all.
So IMHO there is something for everyone in debian and people should be
less obsessed with release cycles. Yes sarge should be released ASAP
for a number of reasons but not at the expense of stability and
durability.
Regards
Clive
--
www.clivemenzies.co.uk ...
...strategies for business
Reply to: