Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:47:09 +1000, Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> said:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 10:34:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:31:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt
>> <hamish@debian.org> said:
>> > I'm stunned that this GR passed. I was surprised when the
>> > secretary called for votes because the proposal wasn't anything
>> > close to ready for voting
>>
>> Then you need to read the constitution, you obviously do noty know
>> how Debian works. Once a proposal has gathered the requisite number
>> of seconds, the secretary has limited wiggle room in calling the
>> vote; A2.1. I had already put off Andrew once, pleasding technical
>> issues, after he had called for a vote; I could notr, in good
>> conscience, keep on postponing a properly proposed GR.
> Actually I cannot justify your position from my reading of the
> constituition.
Hmm. I guess we could ask for a formal disambiguation.
I do not indefinitely delay votes for no discernibl;e
reason. After all, I am still convinced that the vote was a minor
editorial clarificatrion of what the SC has always meant. If you
believed differently, how come you are so very vociferous _after_ the
fact?
> The constituition says that there is a minimum discussion period of
> two weeks, plus/minus one week at the secretary's discretion. It
> says nothing of a maximum discussion period.
> It says that the proposers and sponsors may call for a vote. It does
> not indicate that the secretary must act within any timeframe or
> even that the secretary must act quickly.
That is a quibble. The call for votes does not go to the
secretary, the call for votes goes to the voters. Once the call for
votes has gone out, the voters vote; and the secretary must arrange
for these votes to be counted.
> I'm not actually suggesting that the secretary should stall the vote
> at his own discretion. This is a hole in the constituition.
I do not think it s a hole in a reasonable reading of the
constitution.
> (Admittedly, somewhat smaller than the one that allows less than 4%
> of the developers to change the social contract.)
That, too, is not a hole. If people were not so very
apathetic, they could oppose any change -- by (gasp) exercising their
franchise.
The people who did not vote should not be trying to pin the
blame of their apathy on any and everyone else in spitting distance.
manoj
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