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Re: non installed printer can not be removed






> On 17 Jun 2022, at 01:56, Gareth Evans <donotspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. 
>> 
>> A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to the 
>> router with wireless. However, although there are no drivers and no ppd-files 
>> installed, the printer is seen by cups (and also by system-printer-config) but 
>> can not be used (think, because the missing ppd-file).
>> 
>> When this is installed, udev-entries and so on are set, then the printer is 
>> seen for example with ipp://192.168.*.*. 
>> 
>> However, printing does not work, although the printer gets data, but then 
>> hangs. I believe, this is a driver problem (because this appeared, since my 
>> friend got a new router (FritzBox).
>> 
>> I hope, for this I will find a solution, so hints are welcome, buut not the 
>> reason for this thread.
>> 
>> Much more I am interested, to know, why I can not delete the printer in CUPS 
>> or system-config-printer? Any printer I add, can be deleted, but the last 
>> entry can not be deleted. 
>> 
>> What is wrong? Why does the kernel see the correct printer, and where does it 
>> get its information? It is not connected at the USB-port, so no information 
>> could be taken from this.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help!
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Hans
> 
> Various sources (but not HP documentation afaics) suggest this printer is airprint-compatible.
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-C480FW-Colour-Multifunction-Printer/dp/B010NE2HKI
> 
> https://productz.com/en/samsung-xpress-sl-c480fw/p/wxnG7
> 
> If so, I would suggest "cannot delete" = continuous autodetection.
> 
> What is the output of
> 
> $ driverless
> 
> As for not actually being able to print, I have a problem like that too which has only recently emerged with an airprint printer which worked until recently.
> 
> You might find you can print (as I do) if you add a queue via lpadmin.  
> 
> As helped me recently:
> 
> "# lpinfo -v
> 
> to get a list of URLs (the one starting with ipp:// is the one 
> necessary), and then something like
> 
> # lpadmin -p Brother2740 -v IPP_URL_FROM_ABOVE -E -m everywhere"
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/06/msg00212.html
> 

Can anyone with a fax-capable MFP confirm that driverless autodetected printing works with CUPS on Debian 11 with the latest stable CUPS version?

My debug-enabled cups error log includes the following, which makes me wonder if it's being identified correctly:

Does this suggest it's being detected as (only) a fax?  (Though this relates to a queue manually added with system-config-printer as nothing is autodetected)

D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Resolving \"Brother MFC-L2740DW series\", regtype=\"_ipp._tcp\", domain=\"local.\"...
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Notifier] state=3
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Notifier] PrinterStateChanged
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Color Manager: Calibration Mode/Off
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] PID 2953512 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/bannertopdf) exited with no errors.
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Calling FindDeviceById(cups-MFC-L2740DW_DLIPP)
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Found device /org/freedesktop/ColorManager/devices/cups_MFC_L2740DW_DLIPP
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Calling org.freedesktop.ColorManager.Device.Get(ProfilingInhibitors)
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Calling FindDeviceById(cups-MFC-L2740DW_DLIPP)
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Found device /org/freedesktop/ColorManager/devices/cups_MFC_L2740DW_DLIPP
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Calling GetProfileForQualifiers(Gray.Stationery.600dpi...)
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Found profile /org/freedesktop/ColorManager/profiles/MFC_L2740DW_DLIPP_Gray__
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Calling org.freedesktop.ColorManager.Profile.Get(Filename)
D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Resolved as \"ipp://mfcl2740dw.local:631/ipp/faxout\"...

system-config-printer refuses to persist changes to the driver for autodetected queues with previous cups versions which do autodetect it, hanging on to the version including "...fax, driverless...".

Thanks,
Gareth




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