On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: > > > On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> wrote: > > > > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > > > > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > > > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > > > and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] > > > > > > > > A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware: > > > Try it with one of the non-free network install ISOs from > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ > > I have been using these: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ > > ... > Thanks, Peter - but on top of Lee's answer, I'm beginning to get a > sense that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation > images. (If the choice of images seems too complicated, that's only > because it it.) For example, just look at the pages you and Lee > referenced: > > Lee: cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ > You: cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ > > Two pages to serve the same purpose is WAY too much churn. Then look > at the /files/ from those two pages: > > Lee's page: [660M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso > Your page: [377M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > It's almost as if two different people (or parties) are taking cracks > at the same issue simply because no one is in charge to rationalize it > for the sake of the people who matter: Those who are looking for a way > to get started on Debian. But it gets even worse: Both pages use the > SAME boilerplate text above the file links, so it would be easy to > confuse them. Even someone who has read the instructions > <https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06.en.html> carefully > (as I did) has no hint of the unnecessary complications. > > There's no reason there should be two places for people to go for the > same thing. As it happens, the file from your page is the one I had > already downloaded [(2) above], but even you did not recognize it > because this has been over-complicated. And looking at both files, > knowing that they contain much of the same material, I'm inclined to > think that the other one [at 660M rather than 377M] has been more > carefully assembled to get as much as practicable onto one > installation disk. > > I'm taking a lesson from this: some cleanup is in order. The names are quite self-explanatory, one image is for amd64 only (64bit PCs) and one is for amd64 and i386 (older 32bit-only PCs, or if for some reason you must install 32bit OS on 64bit hardware). It might be a good idea to stop building the multiarch image in 2020. Most users should install amd64 anyway and those that *really* need i386 are likely able to find the correct image anyway. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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