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Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change




On 2/27/20 12:46 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote:
On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> wrote:
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
    (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
    (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and    (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]

A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware:
Try it with one of the non-free network install ISOs from
https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/
I have been using these: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/
...
Thanks, Peter - but on top of Lee's answer, I'm beginning to get a 
sense that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation 
images. (If the choice of images seems too complicated, that's only 
because it it.)  For example, just look at the pages you and Lee 
referenced:

	Lee: cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/
	You: cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/

Two pages to serve the same purpose is WAY too much churn. Then look 
at the /files/ from those two pages:

	Lee's page: [660M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
	Your  page: [377M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso

It's almost as if two different people (or parties) are taking cracks 
at the same issue simply because no one is in charge to rationalize it 
for the sake of the people who matter: Those who are looking for a way 
to get started on Debian. But it gets even worse: Both pages use the 
SAME boilerplate text above the file links, so it would be easy to 
confuse them. Even someone who has read the instructions 
<https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06.en.html> carefully 
(as I did) has no hint of the unnecessary complications.

There's no reason there should be two places for people to go for the 
same thing. As it happens, the file from your page is the one I had 
already downloaded [(2) above], but even you did not recognize it 
because this has been over-complicated. And looking at both files, 
knowing that they contain much of the same material, I'm inclined to 
think that the other one [at 660M rather than 377M] has been more 
carefully assembled to get as much as practicable onto one 
installation disk.

I'm taking a lesson from this: some cleanup is in order.
The names are quite self-explanatory, one image is for amd64 only (64bit 
PCs) and one is for amd64 and i386 (older 32bit-only PCs, or if for some 
reason you must install 32bit OS on 64bit hardware).
Self-explanatory? Maybe for you but the differences between the amd64-i386 and the amd64 went over my head. Thank for pointing that difference out.
I never claimed to be all that bright.
Yes, having One ISO to install on both will be a Great boon for me.

It might be a good idea to stop building the multiarch image in 2020. 
Most users should install amd64 anyway and those that *really* need i386 
are likely able to find the correct image anyway.

I beg to differ.

perhaps a bit of website cleanup and some boilerplate edits might help, but the Content is excellent.



Kind regards,
Andrei

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