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Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd



Le Wed, 17 Oct 2018 04:40:49 -0400,
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> a écrit :

> On Wednesday 17 October 2018 04:00:37 Morel Bérenger wrote:
> 
> > Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:53:37 -0400,
> >
> > Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> a écrit :  
> > > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:  
> > > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for
> > > > > doing it and bug filing is ignored.  
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what you mean by this.  I just performed the
> > > > following experiment on my stretch workstation (wooledg), in
> > > > communications with a stretch server (arc3) elsewhere on our
> > > > network.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Already logged into wooledg, I opened a new urxvt window.
> > > >
> > > > 2) In this window, I typed: ssh -Y arc3
> > > >
> > > > 3) After authenticating to arc3 with a password, at the shell
> > > > prompt, I typed: xterm
> > > >
> > > > 4) After a moment, a new xterm window appeared on my display.  
> > >
> > > Thats expected. Now enter synaptic-pkexec. It should ask you, if
> > > you are user 1000, for a passwd and given it, it will run. But
> > > after wheezy, its not possible. LinuxCNC's graphics needs are
> > > modest, and it will run, as the user. But its not root. And root
> > > is denied regardless of how you go about obtaining root
> > > permissions.  
> >
> > Also, I wonder if you tried to do that through, for example Xephyr?
> > Might workaround the issue you have?  
> 
> Well I was just reminded that gksudo works. Now what the heck is
> Xephyr? Google says its x on x, whatever that means. I'll try to
> remember that and play with it if its available for wheezy & later.
> 
> Thanks Morel Bérenger.
> 

The ncurses mode of aptitude says Xephyr is a X server that can be
executed inside another X server, more or less like Xnest (or xming,
for people like me that had to work on a windows station but wanted to
keep a nice wm embedded on personal hardware ;)).

I can not really explain how this works, but in short you could
consider a remote system providing the performances stuff (hard disk
space, strong CPU, tons or RAM...) and opening the X session on local
systems.
I think it might fix your problem because basically, su-programs
(probably PAM modules, in fact) do some security related checks to
avoid passwords to be sniffed by a client on another computer: which is
what I would expect a ssh -Y gksudo do.

If my explanation is not clear (and I'm certain of it), it's because I
don't really master that side of systems, sorry for that :)

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