Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it
> > and bug filing is ignored.
>
> I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following
> experiment on my stretch workstation (wooledg), in communications with
> a stretch server (arc3) elsewhere on our network.
>
> 1) Already logged into wooledg, I opened a new urxvt window.
>
> 2) In this window, I typed: ssh -Y arc3
>
> 3) After authenticating to arc3 with a password, at the shell prompt,
> I typed: xterm
>
> 4) After a moment, a new xterm window appeared on my display.
Thats expected. Now enter synaptic-pkexec. It should ask you, if you are
user 1000, for a passwd and given it, it will run. But after wheezy, its
not possible. LinuxCNC's graphics needs are modest, and it will run, as
the user. But its not root. And root is denied regardless of how you go
about obtaining root permissions. For me, its a right PITA because I am
forced to goto that machines keyboard/monitor location when there is
something I need to install. And those, with a single exception, are all
standup, look up at the monitor and get a sore neck from tilting ones
head back far enough to get the bi section of my trifocals up so I can
read what the monitor is telling me. I presume all this discomfort is
the result of somebody deciding that root cannot be trusted to export
the gui of the program he wants to run.
That to me is quite similar to the warm, sometimes steaming green/brown
piles of used food for the male of the bovine specie.
It is my machine, let me run it the way /I/ want.
> 5) Inside this xterm, to confirm that the xterm was running on arc3,
> I typed: uname -a
>
> Terminal sessions shown without modification:
>
> =====================================================
> wooledg:~$ ssh -Y arc3
> wooledg@arc3's password:
> Linux arc3 4.9.0-8-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u5 (2018-09-30)
> i686
>
> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free
> software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described
> in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
>
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
> Last login: Mon Oct 1 17:18:16 2018 from 10.76.172.97
> $ xterm
>
> =====================================================
> $ uname -a
> Linux arc3 4.9.0-8-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u5 (2018-09-30)
> i686 GNU/Linux $
> =====================================================
>
> So, I don't know why you believe that ssh's -Y option has been
> "killed". If you are having trouble with it, start a new thread and we
> can try to help you figure out what's wrong.
See above, and tell me again that its not /now/ broken. I need some
levity at my age.
As for the new thread, I have posted to this list 3 or 4 times about this
and got nothing but crickets. After a while, one gets the impression its
a verboten question.
Thanks Greg. I'd continue this argument, but I'd better go put on my
chefs hat and see what my lady wants for dinner. Then its eyedrops time
and bedtime as I'm getting a new lens in my right eye early in the
morning. And the OR is nearly an hour away, so I'll need to be on the
road by 6AM.
--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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