Re: got a new one
On Thursday 21 December 2017 06:51:56 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 21 Dec 2017 at 06:17:19 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 December 2017 05:52:11 Brian wrote:
> > > On Wed 20 Dec 2017 at 19:39:32 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 20 December 2017 17:56:46 Brian wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 20 Dec 2017 at 17:06:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Either one implies a 90 degree rotation of the page on the
> > > > > > paper, so that loooong lines don't either get clipped off at
> > > > > > the right margin, or often as not line wrapped by the
> > > > > > printer which means on a multipage document, the pdf
> > > > > > interpretors page count doesn't get totally scrambled &
> > > > > > starts putting the headers and footers in the middle of the
> > > > > > page. Doesn't always help though, some of the hal files I've
> > > > > > hacked up over the years have effectively been north of 220
> > > > > > chars/line. There are ways to fix that, but they are
> > > > > > relatively new in linuxcnc's init functions. Those older
> > > > > > files usually get fixed if I have to revisit them, because
> > > > > > the hardware changed or something.
> > > > >
> > > > > What determines the choice of pages which suffer a 90 degree
> > > > > rotation?
> > > >
> > > > Not individual pages unless you want to jump thru some pretty
> > > > small hoops. You can select it for the whole, individual print
> > > > job, in the printer requester that pops up when you select print
> > > > from some application. I varies as to what tab its under but
> > > > will usually be a 4 choice. 2 of them will be labeled Portrait
> > > > and Landscape, the other 2 are further rotations at 180 and 270
> > > > degrees. The better versions of that requester will also let you
> > > > specify odd only or even only, or a page range in case you only
> > > > want a 10 page piece of a 750 pager.
> > >
> > > So the contention is that "printing in landscape" involves
> > > selecting the Landscape option in a drop-down menu of evince and
> > > then that will produce a 90 degree rotation of a PDF page.
> > >
> > > However, I observe (on unstable, jessie and stretch) that a page
> > > like this
> > >
> > > +----------+
> > >
> > >
> > > +----------+
> > >
> > > is not rotated. Auto Rotate and Center was unchecked and the
> > > technique in
> > >
> > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00584.html
> > >
> > > was used to examine the PDF to be sent to CUPS.
> > >
> > > It appears that "printing in landscape" doesn't always lead to a
> > > 90 degree rotation when using evince..
> >
> > I repeat, it was not requested as anything but Portrait for that job
> > that failed. okular uses a different requester, which does not show
> > that option in any menu, and it worked. Unfortunately, none of these
> > things have a help pulldown that identify's them so fingers can be
> > pointed at the guilty party.
>
> We were discussing the meaning and significance of the term "printing
> to landscape", not your particular issue. It takes us a little
> off-topic but, for evince. it does not seem to have the meaning people
> credit it with. As illustrated, rotation does not always take place.
> Does this lead to the conclusion thet "printing to landscape" (or for
> that matter, "printing to portrait") is too fuzzy a phrase to be
> useful? For evince, the Landscape option appears to be saying - rotate
> by 90 degrees sometimes.
>
> > Perhaps a better question, since this seems to be a well known bug,
> > is why has it not been fixed? And how is it turned of so as to
> > become the default?
>
> As you will see from the report, the bug Curt made reference to has
> been fixed.
>
> Considering you have lead the discussion back to your invoice problem
> I'll ask whether the PDF evince produces is viewable,
Yes, exactly as expected.
> and shows what
> you expect, using what is outlined in
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00584.html
cupsdisable <destination_print_queue>
and send the invoice from evince to be printed. Look in /var/spool/cups
for a file beginning with "d" and view it in a PDF viewer. Also use
pdfinfo and pdffonts to compare this PDF and the original one.
Use cupsenable to revert the first command.
Its not possible, because a disabled printer is ghosted in the printer
selection menu, yes I do have additional printers, full color and 2% of
the speed of the $110 HL2140. It can do this is 30 seconds including
drum warmup time. The tabloid sized 6920, an mfc, hasn't even sorted out
which paper tray to use in that same 30 seconds.
Would I get the same results sending to cups-pdf?
I can turn that option off on a job by job basis I assume.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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