Re: got a new one
On Thu 21 Dec 2017 at 06:17:19 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 December 2017 05:52:11 Brian wrote:
>
> > On Wed 20 Dec 2017 at 19:39:32 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 20 December 2017 17:56:46 Brian wrote:
> > > > On Wed 20 Dec 2017 at 17:06:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Either one implies a 90 degree rotation of the page on the
> > > > > paper, so that loooong lines don't either get clipped off at the
> > > > > right margin, or often as not line wrapped by the printer which
> > > > > means on a multipage document, the pdf interpretors page count
> > > > > doesn't get totally scrambled & starts putting the headers and
> > > > > footers in the middle of the page. Doesn't always help though,
> > > > > some of the hal files I've hacked up over the years have
> > > > > effectively been north of 220 chars/line. There are ways to fix
> > > > > that, but they are relatively new in linuxcnc's init functions.
> > > > > Those older files usually get fixed if I have to revisit them,
> > > > > because the hardware changed or something.
> > > >
> > > > What determines the choice of pages which suffer a 90 degree
> > > > rotation?
> > >
> > > Not individual pages unless you want to jump thru some pretty small
> > > hoops. You can select it for the whole, individual print job, in the
> > > printer requester that pops up when you select print from some
> > > application. I varies as to what tab its under but will usually be a
> > > 4 choice. 2 of them will be labeled Portrait and Landscape, the
> > > other 2 are further rotations at 180 and 270 degrees. The better
> > > versions of that requester will also let you specify odd only or
> > > even only, or a page range in case you only want a 10 page piece of
> > > a 750 pager.
> >
> > So the contention is that "printing in landscape" involves selecting
> > the Landscape option in a drop-down menu of evince and then that will
> > produce a 90 degree rotation of a PDF page.
> >
> > However, I observe (on unstable, jessie and stretch) that a page like
> > this
> >
> > +----------+
> >
> >
> > +----------+
> >
> > is not rotated. Auto Rotate and Center was unchecked and the technique
> > in
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00584.html
> >
> > was used to examine the PDF to be sent to CUPS.
> >
> > It appears that "printing in landscape" doesn't always lead to a 90
> > degree rotation when using evince..
>
> I repeat, it was not requested as anything but Portrait for that job that
> failed. okular uses a different requester, which does not show that
> option in any menu, and it worked. Unfortunately, none of these things
> have a help pulldown that identify's them so fingers can be pointed at
> the guilty party.
We were discussing the meaning and significance of the term "printing
to landscape", not your particular issue. It takes us a little off-topic
but, for evince. it does not seem to have the meaning people credit it
with. As illustrated, rotation does not always take place. Does this
lead to the conclusion thet "printing to landscape" (or for that matter,
"printing to portrait") is too fuzzy a phrase to be useful? For evince,
the Landscape option appears to be saying - rotate by 90 degrees
sometimes.
> Perhaps a better question, since this seems to be a well known bug, is
> why has it not been fixed? And how is it turned of so as to become the
> default?
As you will see from the report, the bug Curt made reference to has been
fixed.
Considering you have lead the discussion back to your invoice problem
I'll ask whether the PDF evince produces is viewable, and shows what
you expect, using what is outlined in
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00584.html
--
Brian.
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