Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:41:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
<field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson
> > <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>>>> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can
> >>>>> install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update
> >>>>> "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did a mail list archive
> >>>>> search for this, but didn't find anything specific. Or did I
> >>>>> miss the solution?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My Test Setup:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stretch Stable 64-bit from net-install disk in Virtualbox 5.1
> >>>>> on a Wheezy host. Basic terminal install (no GUI), converted to
> >>>>> sysvinit (did not do anything to systemd files. Kept as
> >>>>> dependencies) and then added xorg, openbox window manager, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> B
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> dpkg -s unattended-upgrades
> >>>
> >>> Not installed either by me or the installer
> >>>
> >>>> If it is installed, it did your updates and security upgrades for
> >>>> you. If you do not like it and want to do manual
> >>>> updates/upgrades, do with root privs:
> >>>
> >>> I have always done this manually since I first started using
> >>> Debian (Sarge). And always will. This is my personal machine.
> >>>
> >>>> sed -i 's/1/0/g' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
> >>>>
> >>>> For further reading and understanding:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the reference. I've been aware of this for a long
> >>> time, but chose not to use it.
> >>>
> >>> My problem must be something else.
> >>
> >> You also have packagekit and discover to deal with and who knows
> >> what else. Stopping auto-install is not that difficult, but
> >> stopping auto-update is a problem.
> >
> > I think you've assumed some things incorrectly. I did a basic
> > terminal only install with only basic system utilties, the last
> > option on the list. No Desktop of any kind. No xserver.
> > Packagekit is not installed. Discover was as a dependency, but I
> > didn't install it explicitly. No auto-install or auto-update
> > either. I converted to sysvinit, but left systemd stuff as
> > dependencies. Later will install xorg and openbox, etc. for my
> > GUI. This is the same way I installed Wheezy 5 years ago. And it
> > works (and always has) fine.
> >
> > FWIW, a few months ago, I installed Stretch RC2 the same way to
> > test it and everything worked including apt-get update, upgrade,
> > etc.
> >
> > So, something is wrong. And I won't install it for real until I
> > discover what.
> >
> > B
>
>
> A few months ago, hum, I wonder what could have changed, let's see
> Stretch was in testing and not frozen. Yep, you're right it's broken.
No need for sarcasm. I've been using Debian since Sarge, and this is
the first time I've noted such a lack of "fixes" and security updates
after the initial release of a Stable. Historically, that's unusual.
Maybe, the maintainers are taking a vacation. ;-)
> Here's a link for you to check out:
> https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades Pay attention to the term
> "periodic", it's turned on by default and even if the config file is
> not there it's still turned on.
I did check. Since the package unattended-upgrades is not installed --
not on my initial test minimal install or the full LXDE desktop one I
just did -- it can't be "turned on" by default or otherwise. There's
also no config file for it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ Maybe, it's
installed by default with GNOME. I don't know as I don't use GNOME and
haven't in about 6 years
B.
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