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Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

RavenLX wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 07:57 AM, songbird wrote:
>>    you can set up several partitions with different
>> levels of fun if you want.
> My spare laptop has a 250 GB HD and the laptop I use all the time has a 
> 600 GB HD. I already have both partitioned for *one* OS - Debian 8. I 
> really don't want to go through repartitioning or reinstalling the whole 
> thing because I have a quite a lot of programs (some of which I have to 
> use for a jobs) and configurations which take a long time to put 
> together. I simply don't have the time right now because of work and 
> other commitments.

  sure, it is all about choice.  i think from what you
write that using stable makes the most sense.

> Also I hate dual-booting. I normally forget the other OS is there and it 
> just sets there just taking up HD space instead.

  when i boot the machine the grub menu shows it (with
a delay so that if i choose nothing it will boot into
the default setup).  i ignore it for a few months at a
time then when i've used most programs and everything
seems to be ok then i do choose to boot that other
setup and update it then.

> What I did was updated a Debian 8 Virtual Machine (on VirtualBox). I 
> have it but guess what? I haven't felt up to (nor had the time to) do 
> anything with it since. I may end up having to wait a couple months. 
> (Serves me right getting too curious!)
> Having dual boot systems has it's advantages and disadvantages. But in 
> my particular case, I've found virtual machines to be more to my liking 
> as they don't require me to dual boot.

  no problem with that.  :)

> Also on the "other OS" I would still have emails, etc in that version's 
> thunderbird and it would be a hassle to keep having to import them all 
> to the "main" OS, and I don't like having to remember (and always 
> forgetting) to pop in a USB stick to save/get emails.

  i use the other setup only as a backup so that if
the main/default setup doesn't work at least i know
i have a working comparison to go from.  i don't usually
keep everything in there (e-mails, usenet, etc.).

> My hardware pretty much has to stick to one OS and the spare laptop has 
> to be identical so I can just plop in the backed up files (I at least 
> remember out of habit to backup frequently) and get to work fast (which 
> may be needed at any time).
> This is why virtual machines come in so handy. I can clone one and go do 
> whatever it is I want/need to do. If it breaks, I can delete the 
> machine, clone another from the base and I'm good to go.

  that sounds pretty good and similar enough to what i'm
doing anyways.  virtual machines have come along in more
recent years compared to when i started out.

> As for the "base" virtual machines, I keep the base VMs updated once a 
> week and then condense, export and back them up. This way I have 
> something ready to go on the spare laptop (which doesn't contain any 
> data files that change regularly, just the programs needed to do the 
> work I need to do, and data that is almost never changing).
> I've found this setup to work best for me.

  great.  :)

>>    the thing with these setups is that in Debian you
>> don't have to get automatic updates if you don't want
>> them so you know when the system is being upgraded.
> I do upgrades once a week, so that would be giving me yet another system 
> to upgrade and it would mean having to reboot and go into the other OS 
> to do it. Call me lazy, but I already have quite a few systems to update 
> every week now (2 laptops, an android phone, and 5 (so far) virtual 
> machines (which need to stay updated and ready to clone at any time for 
> use with development and testing). My computer is several years old so 
> it's not the fastest at rebooting (I think the VMs boot much faster).
> What I'll do is work in the virtual machine (when I have time that is) 
> and then decide from there. Who knows, at the rate it's taking me to get 
> around to doing any experimenting, by that time Stretch may have gone 
> stable. :-P

  it may...  seems to be coming along.


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