Re: iceape availability
On 26/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <peter@ludikovsky.name> wrote:
> That is more than risky.
> 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819
> 2) While Ubuntu is based on Debian, there's (sometimes) a huge
> difference in the software releases shipped:
> * libc6: 2.11 (Debian 6) vs. 2.21 (Ubuntu 15.10)
> * libssl: 0.9.8o vs. 1.0.2d
> * libgtk: 2.20.1 vs 2.24.28
> So there's a good chance iceape won't even install, and if it does,
> you might experience strange behaviour, or nothing at all.
>
> Regards,
> /peter
>
> Am 25.02.2016 um 16:27 schrieb Bret Busby:
>> On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <peter@ludikovsky.name> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Yes, and no. You can run `apt-get -d install iceape`, and it will
>>> download the package, and the missing dependencies, to
>>> /var/cache/apt/archives/. However, if you want to install something on a
>>> machine without internet access you might be better off with apt-medium
>>> [1], although I never used that.
>>>
>>> And I'm sorry, but I don't understand your second question. I assume
>>> that you think that the security repository is independent of the
>>> others, but that's not so. A Debian installation usually uses 3
>>> repositories together:
>>> * A "base" repo, containing the release packages
>>> * A "security" repo, containing security fixes for those packages
>>> * An "updates" repo that serves updates for non-security relevant bugs
>>>
>>> As always, we might be able to better help you if you can give us a
>>> description of what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> /peter
>>>
>>> Am 25.02.2016 um 09:32 schrieb Bret Busby:
>>>> On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <peter@ludikovsky.name> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Searching for a single .deb & trying to install that is the way
>>>>> proprietary systems handle it. With Debian, and most other Linux
>>>>> distros, there's repositories, and tools to handle dependencies. Open
>>>>> a
>>>>> command line / terminal and enter
>>>>> sudo apt-get install iceape
>>>>>
>>>>> It will pull iceape, and all dependencies, from the Debian repos, and
>>>>> install them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Updates are handled similarily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> /peter
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 25.02.2016 um 07:08 schrieb Bret Busby:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download
>>>>>> the package for the iceape suite, to try to install it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahat I found, is apparently submerged in a "security pool".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found that what is apparently provided as the iceape suite .deb
>>>>>> package, is just something that has endless unsatisfiable
>>>>>> dependencies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is an installable .deb package for the iceape suite, available?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way (a switch for the apt-get command?) to download all of
>>>> the dependencies? I have looked at man apt-get, and, that has an
>>>> option "download" (as opposed to install or find), but I could not
>>>> find, from the man entry for apt-get, how to download the package and
>>>> all of its dependencies; that is, to download the particular package,
>>>> and, its dependency packages, so that they can be stored, and,
>>>> installed (or, tried to be installed) on different systems as wanted.
>>>>
>>>> Also, does a means exist, for specifying a particular repository for
>>>> only the particular instantiation of the command, so that, for
>>>> example, as iceape is only in the security pool repository, to specify
>>>> only for the installation of iceape (or, if it can be done, for the
>>>> download of iceape and its dependencies, to a directory on the
>>>> computer), the particular repository path?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Okay.
>>
>> Explicitly, what I want to try to do, and, the reason that I want to
>> know whether the repository can be specified for only, and, limited
>> to, a single instantiation of a download or install command, is to
>> try to install iceape on a Ubuntu installation.
>>
>> iceape has functionality that seamonkey does not have, and, the
>> specific functionality that I want, is the primary reason for me
>> wanting to try this.
>>
>> I do not know whether iceape and seamonkey can be concurrently
>> installed on the same system.
>>
>> With the LTS for Debian 6 (which I believe to be the latest version
>> operating system for which iceape is an available package), due to end
>> on Monday, I want to try an installation on a system, to install
>> iceape on a new installation of UbuntuMATE 15.10, so that I would
>> install UbuntuMATE on the system, and then try to install iceape.
>>
>
>
I am not sure how it all works out, but I have just searched, and, the
seamonkey.deb package that I have installed, and, have been running,
on my UbuntuMATE 15.10 installations, is version 2.29, which I had
understood to have been the latest available version of seamonkey, as
a deb package, and, the release date for seamonkey.deb v 2.29, appears
to be 2014-09-27, so it is 14 months old, and, that would also make it
two STS versions of Ubuntu, old (14.10->15.04->15.10).
The thing is, as I had said, I would TRY to install iceape on
UbuntuMATE 15.10, if I could, via a suite .deb package, or, a
sufficiently similarly simple method of installation.
In searching for the release date of seamonkey.deb 2.29, I have now
found that seamonkey.deb 2.39 is available, so, as I do not know how
to perform an upgrade using the ubuntuzilla repository (?), I intend
to install the latest applicable version of seamonkey.deb, when I
install UbuntuMATE 16.04 LTS.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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