Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling
Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:29:27 -0200,
Andre N Batista <andrenbatista@gmail.com> a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:23:26PM +0100, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:33 -0500,
> > Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> a écrit :
> >
> > > On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Blaming the Debian project for letting the Debian distribution
> > > > evolve in ways defined by its volunteers is unfair.
> > >
> > > Eh? My understanding is that this systemd mess is due to a vote
> > > of the technical committee, a vote that was in fact tied and the
> > > chair had to cast the tie-breaker.
> > >
> > > Hardly waht I would call an 'evolution defined by its
> > > volunteers'...
> >
> > The members of the project have delegated the power to arbitrate
> > technical decisions to the the technical committee via the
> > constitution. Some people might not agree with this, but this how
> > the project is working today.
>
> And that power which was delegated can be reclaimed anytime by it's
> true and legitimate owner if, for some reason - say the TC reached a
> decision with a Minerva vote by Project Leader and that decision has
> proven over the time to be highly controversial among debian users
> and developers -, he feels the need to do so.
>
> As far as debian is related to software, very question can be
> expressed as a technical one. As far as it is a project commited to
> some political goals, some technical decisions can hinder, others can
> further project's goals.
>
> Nobody is claiming that the TC shouldn't be allowed to decide on
> technical issues, but there are people who seem to think that this is
> equal to TC's decisions being final, undebatable and impossible to
> overrule. If this is true, however, we cannot claim that TC's power
> is delegated, we need to recognize that it is an unlimited de facto
> power.
The TC decisions can be overruled by a GR with a simple majority, see
the point 4.1.4 of the Constitution[0]
[0] https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-4
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