Re: Moderated posts?
Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, lee <lee@yagibdah.de> wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstuckle@attglobal.net> writes:
>>
>>> And, in fact, more and more ISPs are just accepting and discarding
>>> emails to non-existent users because rejecting such email helps spammers
>>> (any non-rejected email must be a valid user).
>>
>> That's totally retarded. When I don't get an error message in return,
>> the message I sent has been delivered. If it hasn't because there's
>> some error, I will not be responsible for any damage that may hit the
>> recipient or myself. Quietly dropping messages is not an option.
>
> There is a header for requesting automatic confirmation of delivery,
> but it tends to be abused by malicious junkmailers (spammers). MUAs
> are supposed to be able to disable it, but I haven't seen that option
> in an MUA settings dialog for a long time.
You can set it in Seamonkey, and IIRC gnus and mutt ignore it.
A MUA that sends out DSNs without asking and no choice is unusable.
> This is a grey area of the e-mail standard. People want it to be like
> snail-mail, only automatic, but don't realize that having people in
> the loop is what provides the desired feature.
It depends: When you have a postman involved who carries the letters to
their recipients, you still don't know whether your letter arrived or
not, despite involving people. Email is not any less reliable than
smail in that regard --- and it's technically easier to get a
confirmation that your email has arrived than it is with smail.
And you get a confirmation when your message could not be delivered,
unless someones MTA is broken. Unfortunately, too many people break
theirs.
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