Re: question about systemd

[Peter Zoeller <peter_zoeller@rogers.com>]

I tell you what why don't you install Fedora the originator of this and 
try to remove systemd and install sysvinit or Upstart and then we will 
talk. Left Fedora for this very reason, lack of choice.

On 10/10/14 07:16 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 10 Oct 2014 at 15:31:35 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:16:23PM -0400, James Ensor wrote:
> > > Please reply to the list and not directly to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:39 AM, PETER ZOELLER
> > > <peter_zoeller@rogers.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry but I shouldn't have to remove systemd but be given a choice as to
> > > > which one I want at the time of the install just as I choose my file system,
> > > > my software, my networking, where I want my boot loader installed, etc.  To
> > > > assume on your part what I need or want and then expect me to counter your
> > > > choice by requiring me to uninstall is rather presumptuous on your part just
> > > > the same approach that I would expect from Microsoft not Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > I made no assumptions, as I had absolutely nothing to do with the
> > > decision of making systemd the default init system.  I merely point
> > > out that it is possible (and quite easy) for a debian-user to remove
> > > systemd.
> > What about systemd's entanglement? From what I read here, once it's
> > installed there are certain programs that depend on it. Not true?
> You are approaching this the wrong way.
>
> James Ensor claims it is possible and easy for a user to remove systemd.
> Your task is to show that is not; preferably by giving a concrete
> technical example.
>
> Your mission is not to repeat some of the nonsense you may have read on
> debian-user, query the veracity of those statements and then ask someone
> to comment on your beliefs.
>
> Constructive contributions *to the topic* are always welcome.