Re: Replacement for dspam
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David:
> Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
> > Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David:
> >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald
> >
> > <Martin@lichtvoll.de> said:
> >>> Hello!
> >>>
> >>> Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland:
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> >>>>> Ok, I already fail at the first step: call crm114 from Postfix so that
> >>>>> it uses user-specific spam/ham CSS files. My web search suggests
> >>>>> nobody
> >>>>> has ever done that before. I don't use procmail but Dovecot's LDA for
> >>>>> mail sorting which doesn't allow to call external programs. There is
> >>>>> sieve_extprograms but that looks a little weird to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've never tried that, I'd be interested to see it working. I use
> >>>> procmail
> >>>> for local users who have their own CSS files. I did once look at
> >>>> http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/crm114-spamd which provides a
> >>>> spamd-like interface to crm114, but I didn't go live with it. For
> >>>> SMTP-time
> >>>> rejection you will need CSS files shared across all recipients.
> >>>
> >>> For a long time I used CRM114 integrated in KMail with a POP3 account
> >>> and
> >>> I
> >>> can say that CRM114 is exceptionally good at detecting spam. To the
> >>> extent
> >>> that spam just has been a non-issue for me. I am not using this at the
> >>> moment cause I had severe mail loss with Akonadi based KMail and CRM114
> >>> filter rules. This may have been fixed meanwhile but I didn´t try again
> >>> and having tried once. So I just weed out spam manually which works okay
> >>> cause policyd-weight catches most of them on the server already.
> >>>
> >>> I am currently in the process of setting up my Postfix + Dovecot
> >>> installation with IMAP additionally to POP3.
> >>>
> >>> I already have IMAP working, route all mail to me to POP3 + IMAP account
> >>> (with different users) and got managesieve working so I can edit filter
> >>> rules on IMAP server with newest KMail.
> >>>
> >>> Next step is to install dovecot-antispam and integrate it with CRM114 on
> >>> the server. Either with a copy of my existing CRM114 installation on the
> >>> laptop or with a new setup.
> >>>
> >>> I didn´t complete this yet. I think it can work quite well.
> >>
> >> Did you find the tutorial foir integrating postfix and crm114 ?
> >>
> >> On crm114 it is mentioned with a link to the "add-ons" page of postfix
> >> doc, whioch in turn has a link to crm114 main page...
> >>
> >> I could not find whether crm114 is used with lmtp (as I used dspam),
> >> or as a milter, or another way.
> >
> > Since CRM114 requires learning I´d use dovecot-antispam plugin (debian
> > package is available). It automatically learns from anything one puts
> > into spam folder and sports an unsure folder as well.
> >
> > But as I didn´t do it yet, I don´t know the details.
>
> That's the learning part, however there is also the distribution part :
> is the email tagged ? How is the email transmitted by postfix to crm114,
> and how is it transmitted to dovecot LDA ?
Oh, forgot about the tagging. Yes, its tagged, like this:
X-CRM114-Version: 20080326-BlameSentansoken ( TRE 0.7.5 (LGPL) ) MR-FC27DAB3
X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20090107_110103_726041_63F35638
X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 17.97 )
(took this from an older mail)
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