Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics.I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civilized in this international mailing list I have to ask what are the standards here. What do you mean by banana republic? Maybe the USA which uses to promote coup d'état against elected governments all over the world and invade countries after spreading a lot of FUD? Or England, France Germany and Japan, which destroyed half of the world with their imperialism throughout the 19th and 20th centuries?The real world isn't a strawberry field, but a hard place. Communities unfortunately have got bat "habits". I'm against this, but getting rid of it, political correctness isn't the way to go. People need to learn more from Konrad Lorenz, if they are unable to get enlightenment by them self. A "banana republic" in Germany is a term for a community that does fight against it's own members. IOW, it's not nice, but reality, that one nation fucks another nation, but within a community (society), we don't vote with a bullet, as it is done in "banana republics". If somebody discredit my prophet the Holy Penguin I even don't kill the ambassador of a _foreign_ nation/community/society. And my prophet by the way isn't a child molesters as Mohamed was (not meant to offend somebody, Mohamed lived in another age, sure, in the Occident they were child molesters too and especially Christians still tend to be it today, just follow the news, before you claim I offend netiquette, I simply speak out the truth). So in the Islamic world they might not have banana plantations, but they behave in way, we call "banana republic" here.Your response is anything but civilized. It is arrogant, not to say irrational. You initially used as a model of the uncivilized the "banana republics", that are just poor countries that are economically exploited and politically dominated by powerful empires (as the standard definition, not the one that you made up) and now you imply that all muslims are terrorists. You must take more caution with words and thoughts in an "international mailing list". And by the way, Konrad Lorenz was a nazi that later denied everything he said about jews and racist ideas. Maybe you learned your incoherence from him?Stop spreading lies about me. I never made any claim about terrorism.
Yes you did in an implicit form, like I said. You implied that muslims kill the ambassador of a foreign nation/country/society when somebody discredited their prophet. Anyone can read this.
And being poor doesn't mean that there is the need to vote with bullets as it is done in those countries.
I don't understand what you want to say here.
Konrad Lorenz was a behavioral scientist and his work is respected and important. A NAZI? Maybe, maybe not,
He was both and I don't know which is worse when discussing human civilizations: to cite an animal behavior scientist or to cite a nazi. Much harm was already done when trying to "apply" darwinism do social sciences.
but if you call me a NAZI you've got a problem now. Get me?!
I never called you a nazi. I was just pointing Konrad Lorenz's incoherence in his political life and comparing to the incoherence of your post. I know it may be painful for a german to be compared to a nazi, as may be painful to a muslin to be compared to a terrorist. It is painful to me to see the expression "banana republic" (my country was a banana republic for a long time and it still is in some sense) as a model of lack of civilization. Maybe you realize now that political correctness is important.
You should respect freedom of expression
This is valid for everyone, including you. I fail to see when I disregarded freedom of expression.
and stop making conclusions about me or anybody else.
I never took any conclusion about you. I was commenting about what you have written.