Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:16:00 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón
>> > <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote:
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that?
>> >> >> "wireless-tools" package is still available in Debian and he
>> >> >> upstream project is just on the way to replace it but they are
>> >> >> still needed in some cases.
>> >>
>> >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing
>> >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not
>> >> > provide all the function and at times give the wrong answers and
>> >> > that iw should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers.
>> >> > They wrote it, so they should know.
>> >>
>> >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw"
>> >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using
>> >> "ifup" method ;-)
>> >
>> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly
>> > responsible for documenting it.
>>
>> Are you sure? :-)
>>
>> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces
>> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig)
>> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric,
>> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance.
>
> I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The
> former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific package
> that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with the file
> /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. IIUC, this is
> a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / iwconfig /
> wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities to do the
> actual work.
I have not mentioned "ifupdown" but "ifup" :-)
And I've been calling "ifup" to the old method for setting up the
networking interfaces that I have been using years ago. "Ifup" was the
name I used in openSUSE for ifconfig tools (not just a binary file), so
the naming confusion problem can come from here.
>> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented
>> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you
>> think?
>
> iw is documented quite nicely:
>
> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw
Yes, I know... I mentioned that page in the very first of my posts to
this thread ;-)
Greetings,
--
Camaleón
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