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Re: Need /etc/apt/sources.list

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 16:32, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:47:42 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:28, Camaleón wrote:
>>>> Still is for me.
>>> It works here but anyway, you can use a TinyURL decoder:
>>> http://kiserai.net/turl.pl
>> Still 500. That's a server error, not a network error. I'm surprised
>> that it works for anybody. All I can think of here is geographic load
>> balancing, and my geographic server must be down.
> What host is giving you that error?
> Yes, "http://tinyurl.com"; works for me:
> sm01@stt008:~$ wget http://tinyurl.com
> --2011-05-06 15:25:11--  http://tinyurl.com/
> Resolving tinyurl.com...,
> Connecting to tinyurl.com||:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: unspecified [text/html]
> Saving to: `index.html.1'
>    [ <=>                                         ] 9,299       --.-K/s
> in 0.08s
> 2011-05-06 15:25:11 (114 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [9299]

I just tried tinyurl with wget and got the same IP address (and 200
response) as you. I didn't check the links, though.

>> Word documents are also very popular. If someone were to format his
>> reply in a Word document and send it to the Debian list do you not think
>> it to be appropriate to teach them the error of their ways? Or is
>> popularity vindication for error here?
> That's a different issue. There is nothing that needs to be teached here
> because we are talking about "preferences". You don't like tinyurl and
> that's okay, no one can blame you for that, but in the same way you can't
> also blame others for use it... even less when that person was willing to
> help you.

No, this is not a matter of preference. There is no reason to pipe the
links through some third party service that is unreliable and may,
either through malice stupidity or hacking, compromise either the
user's ability to connect to the site or perform undesirable actions
(tracking, advertising, drive-by malware). Could TinyURL never be
hacked? Sold? Forget to pay their hosting bill? Hardware failure?
Network failure?

What advantage exists at all to use tinyURL?

Dotan Cohen


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