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Re: "No devices found" in X

On 2010-12-20 18:40 +0100, Camaleón wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:16:42 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2010-12-20 17:42 +0100, Camaleón wrote:
>>> Hummm, I wouldn't like to have an Intel VGA chipset nowadays O:-)
>> Why not?  My (four years old) laptop has always worked fine, and Intel
>> chipsets are the only ones where free drivers for very new hardware
>> exist.
> Why not? :-)
> Because I'm seeing (one day and another, in this same list and in other 
> Debian lists) that Intel driver is failing (crashing) very often and 
> doesn't seem to provide an easy method to bypass these problems.

Basically there seem to be three classes of problems:

- Crashes and crash-like bugs like GPU lockups.  If you look at the
  hardware the reporters of these bugs have, in 99% of the cases it's an
  old 8xxx chip, and those were _really_ crappy.

- Failure to load the -intel X video driver because KMS is disabled
  (like in the current thread).  This is a rather common
  misconfiguration, but can usually be avoided easily.

- Black screen when the i915 kernel module loads.  This happened even to
  me some day¹, but the kernel developers are shaking out the KMS bugs,
  so this should become less of a problem.

> I like free drivers... if they "work". One thing is that you don't get 
> many FPS with your Intel card but another thing is that you cannot even 
> get into your desktop because xorg server is crashing on start-up.

I think you're overestimating the problems.  And it's not like the
drivers (both the free and the proprietary ones) for Radeon and NVidia
cards have fewer bugs.


¹ https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15205

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