Re: my new Inspiron - WAS: OT: laptop recomendations
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:11:29 +0100
Bernard <bdebreil@teaser.fr> wrote:
> Hi Chris, Hi to Everyone,
>
> Stackpole, Chris wrote:
>
> >>From: Bernard [mailto:bdebreil@teaser.fr]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:44 PM
> >>Subject: Re: my new Inspiron - WAS: OT: laptop recomendations
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: Bernard [mailto:bdebreil@teaser.fr]
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:41 PM
> >>>>To: Stackpole, Chris
> >>>>Subject: Re: my new Inspiron - WAS: OT: laptop recomendations
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >[snip]
> >
> >
> >>>>light did not came out and I got two networks available, one is my
> >>>>neigbour's, the other one is mine. I gave the pasword as required,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>>>it seems to reach a connexion... the former icon is being replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >by
> >
> >
> >>>>four bars... If I get the pointer on it, it says : "connection to
> >>>>wireless network Livebox-46db (0%).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>[snip]
> >>>
> >>>0% is bad; especially if you have 4 bars shown. Something isn't
> >>>
> >>>
> >right.
> >
> >
> >>>Post your hardware please and let the list look at it.
> >>>
> >>>Have fun!
> >>>~Stack~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>my hardware is available at http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/test.txt
> >>
> >>I have managed to get a cable DSL connexion, just plugging the cable
> >>from my desktop, and it worked right away, so that I have been able to
> >>save the trouble of typing one line after the other. "ncftp" was easy
> >>enough to install for the purpose of that transfer.
> >>
> >>I just got the output of "lspci" at this stage.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Looking at your hardware I see this:
> >0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
> >Network Connection (rev 02)
> >
> >OK, I have that wireless card in one of my laptops. I know it works with
> >Ubuntu and Debian. If it is not working with your current setup,
> >something is buggered up.
> >
> I don't claim that it is not working, I just say that I haven't been
> able to get it to work as far as getting a connexion to my DSL router
> (Livebox). To this point, I'd rather suspect that I have not properly
> set up the parameters. I had a hell of a hard time to get it to work,
Any chance that you setup mac filtering on the router? Took me a couple of
hours of serious aggravation last time I tried to setup my wifes ipod touch ...
> back a few month ago on my desktop with Debian Sarge. It is very
> complicated, to the point that, on that Desktop and Debian Sarge, I have
> only been able to get a WPA connexion on my DSL router box, not on
> places where I brought my computer (meeting rooms for associations),
> where it did work only under MSWIN. It worked easier with WEP encryption
> or no encryption. Therefore, I suspect that, if it does not work with my
> new DELL Inspiron under Ubuntu 8.04, it likely is because I have not
> properly setup parameters. Amongst most likely suspects, I would put :
>
It may be good to test wep and/or no encription as a start to make sure that
everything works and it's just an issue of setting up wep properly.
I found the wcid is better at handling wpa by the way that networkmanager which
keeps dropping the connection on me. Do you have wpa-supplicant installed?
> - improper host (my hostname is supposed to be "dell-desktop" ; I don't
> know how I got this, it is "localhost" on my other computers
>
> - improper way to send parameters to the system. For instance, under
> Debian Sarge on my desktop, my "interfaces" file include commands that
> shows passphrase under brackets, while the network manager on Ubuntu
> does not require brackets. There are a few details on my Interfaces file
> on Debian Sarge that I can't reproduce on Ubuntu, for instance the mode
> "Managed" and things of the kind. Such different ways to address
> parameters, is very confusing indeed ; it leads me to suspect that, as
> long as I have not found what is the problem, chances are rather slim
> that I get better results with Debian Lenny or SID. I bet that I would
> get a connexion right away if I changed the settings or my DSL Wifi to
> "no encryption", or to "WEP encryption", but I don't see the point of
> trying, since I don't intend to use any of these modes. What I did was
> testing that WPA wifi connexion still worked on my desktop : it does. On
> my new DELL laptop, no connexion works except cabled DSL connexion.
> However, as I said, the system works, since it detects neigbourhood wifi
> points, but can't connect. If you find it useful, I might try to convert
> my DSL wifi router to WEP encryption, but I bet it will work. Besides, I
> don't know how to overcome the fact that I can't use "sudo" : "unable to
> resolve host dell-desktop", which prevents me to modify the file
> /etc/network/interfaces. I must say, however, that the content of this
> file does change according to what I specify in the Ubunto/Gnome network
> interface, so this is a proof that it all works together. Indeed that
> "interfaces" file does look funny right now ; it includes a passphrase
> that I have never typed, and that is a lot longer than that I have
> typed. I must precise that, just in case you wouldn't have noticed, I am
> close to an ignorant as far as wifi config is concerned. At one time,
> amongst the so numerous options that were offered, I was proposed to
> type a "network pasword". I thought I had to type the WPA TKIP
> passphrase, so I did... but, two or three caracters before the end, no
> more was accepted... So it appears that I was supposed to type something
> else, or nothing at all. It maybe that my typings were translated into a
> passphrase, which can't be the right one... All this is so very
> confusing for a newbee...
>
> Thanks for more help, on a more ground level basis.
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