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Re: Magic SysRq [was Re: X ignores keyboard and mouse input, but shows cursor movement (etch)]



On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:05:05PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
> On 09/18/2007 05:17 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > 
> > On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Ralph Katz wrote:
> >> This is a local vulnerability, yes.  No worse than pulling the plug.  Of
> >> course that IS the problem.  Only keyboard access is needed for this.
> >>
> >> To test, I booted a second etch computer which comes up to a gnome
> >> desktop, and hit alt-sysrq-i.  The display shows a nasty pink colored
> >> image...  Next was to hit alt-sysrq-b which must be the linux 3-finger
> >> salute known to windows people.
> > 
> > Hmm.  I see what you're getting at, but is this really any worse than
> > the default ctrl-alt-del behavior?  (Or is there a security warning
> > about that, too?)
> > 
> > Frankly, if someone has physical access, a reboot is just about the
> > least of your worries.  It's pretty trivial for them to gain root access
> > if they have physical access to the hardware.
> 
> It is worse precisely because it's undocumented.  The default
> ctrl-alt-del behavior is documented, so not an issue.
> 
> One might ask whether the default ON for sysrq is appropriate for
> Stable.  While I don't think it is, my bigger problem is with the
> absence of warnings or user documentation.  This is critical for a
> distro that cares about its users which is why I filed bug 442512.
> Perhaps this is more an issue to me as a non-programmer...
> 

your point is that an undocumented method of rebooting the computer is
a security issue not because of the rebooting but because of the lack
of documentation of a method of rebooting. I agree. you are right to
report this. 

I'm not sure how I feel about sysrq being on or off by default, but
documenting its existence is vastly more important than its default
configuration. 

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