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On 02/28/07 06:56, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:29:29PM -0600, cothrige wrote:
>> * Ron Johnson (ron.l.johnson@cox.net) wrote:
>>> I was just having this discussion the other day.  Legal killing is
>>> *not* murder.
>> I would certainly say that lawful killing is not murder, but might not
>> agree with the specific choice of legal.  Legal would imply the laws
>> of the land, whereas lawful would be more broad.  What is legal in
>> this country, i.e. certain killing, may not be lawful if one accepts
>> a higher law.  Many, myself included, would believe that many killings
>> which are in fact completely legal are still in opposition to the
>> Divine law.  That is why abortion is murder, even though it is legal.
>>
>> That is my take on it.
>>
>> Patrick
> 
> I believe the distinction between "legal" and "lawful" is this:
> 
>   legal -- pertaining to law
>   lawful -- according to law
> 
> thus a self-defence killing may be lawful, but it in not legal.

Huh?  Maybe in Europe, but even you all aren't that crazy.

> A law-court may be legal, but if the judge and jury are crooked it 
> will not be operating lawfully.

That's an excellent example.

> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 

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