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Re: OT: sponge burning!

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:29:29PM -0600, cothrige wrote:
> * Ron Johnson (ron.l.johnson@cox.net) wrote:
> > I was just having this discussion the other day.  Legal killing is
> > *not* murder.
> I would certainly say that lawful killing is not murder, but might not
> agree with the specific choice of legal.  Legal would imply the laws
> of the land, whereas lawful would be more broad.  What is legal in
> this country, i.e. certain killing, may not be lawful if one accepts
> a higher law.  Many, myself included, would believe that many killings
> which are in fact completely legal are still in opposition to the
> Divine law.  That is why abortion is murder, even though it is legal.
> That is my take on it.
> Patrick

I believe the distinction between "legal" and "lawful" is this:

  legal -- pertaining to law
  lawful -- according to law

thus a self-defence killing may be lawful, but it in not legal.
A law-court may be legal, but if the judge and jury are crooked it 
will not be operating lawfully.

-- hendrik

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