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Re: rhythmbox (& gstreamer)



Hans van Middendorp on 09/07/06 17:06, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:21:12 +0100
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
Hans van Middendorp on 04/07/06 19:38, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:20:36 +0100
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
Hans van Middendorp on 02/07/06 21:28, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:48:20 +0100
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
Thomas Jollans on 02/07/06 15:05, wrote:
Adam Hardy wrote:
Just did a general upgrade in etch and accepted all bugs and
have problems now with rhythmbox, which won't play any MP3s
now. it'll play OGG files, but not MP3s.
Trying to fix it, I came across some directions for testing
files with gstreamer, and I realise that rhythmbox considers
itself a Gnome app, but I'm using KDE. I don't have gstreamer
installer, it looks like a heavy-weight Gnome component, maybe
even a daemon but I'm not sure. So to test, I should install
gstreamer, but I'm not convinced I need gstreamer at all in
KDE. But perhaps rhythmbox has changed now to work only under
Gnome.

Anyone know what the situation is?
GStreamer is a library that is used heavily in Gnome, but does
not use a daemon by default. (unlike arts...) It does not hurt
to install gstreamer and gstreamer should not depend on anything
rhythmbox didn't depend on anyway... (like glib etc)
Sorry Thomas, meant to send that to the list.
I installed gstreamer but I don't have the command 'basicgthread'
which it seems I need to run from the cmd line to test play my
mp3s.

I tried running rhythmbox under gnome and but that made no
difference.

So what is gstreamer or more to the point, how do I get rhythmbox
to use it, if even that is what the MP3 problem is all about?

I am not sure if Rhythmbox is using gstreamer0.8 or already 0.10.
If 0.8 it will play mp3 with gstreamer-mad. After installing that
run gst-register-0.8 in console as normal user.

If 0.10 i thimk you need gstreamer-0.10-fluendo-mp3. The gst
command is not necassary voor v0.10.

I no go, give quod-libet a try.
quod-libet didn't work either:
"Gstreamer encountered a general stream error."

There is obviously something wrong with the config because
gst-launch works OK.

When i was using Rhythmbox with Gnome 2.12 i had some problems to
get it running. In Gnome, as far as i can remember, i had to put the
sound(daemon or systen) on gstreamer, esd or alsa. Cannot remenber
which one. With Gnome 2.14 it is put on "automatic" by default.

Now, i am using Xfce4 with alsa. Rhythmbox and Quod Libet are both
working well.
Maybe you could install a light windowmanger like Fluxbox or Icewm
and see if they will run from there. But be sure that no sound
daemons from KDE or Gnome are running.
I think the problem is somewhere in the soundsystem/daemons.

I ran rhythmbox in fluxbox and got the following processes, which
gives me a strong impression that gnome is still controlling
something here:

adam     24088 24069 28 13:12 ?        00:00:26 /usr/bin/rhythmbox
adam     24091     1  0 13:12 ?
00:00:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 11 adam     24093     1  0
13:12 ?
00:00:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server
--ac-activate --ior-output-fd=15 adam     24096     1  0
13:12 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-daemon
--oaf-activate -iid=OAFIID:GNOME_VFS_Daemon_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=23
adam     24123     1  0 13:13 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/rhythmbox

What surprises me is that esd and artsd are both missing, yet under
KDE I see them in the ps list all the time.
artsd is the soundaemon for kde. Is normal in kde. esd is the
soundaemon for gnome. Should not be used kde. Why it is running with
kde, i don't know.
So what do I have to do here? How can I decouple gstreamer from
gnome?

If you do so you rhythmbox and other apps depending of gstreamer will
not work.

Alright then. But you know what? I just upgraded gstreamer - there were some updates of various modules from the last week or so - and now it works. If synaptic logged what it did, I could tell you which ones - but unfortunately I never figured out how to do that.

One question remains open - do I still need gstreamer-0.8, or rather why is it seperate from 0.10?
Just curious, with fluxbox was rhythmbox working?
Yes, for some songs. It still had this problem though. Thanks for the help,
Adam



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