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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]



Mumia W wrote:
>>
>>     And public schools are doing such a fine job of educating, too!  
> 
> 
> Yes, they are. I was educated in a public school.
> 
As was I.  That is exactly the reason why none of my children will
*ever* go to a public school.  I like to think that I am succeeding in
life *in spite* of the fact that I went to public school.

> 
> And there are people who believe that America's laws should be
> interpreted from the point of view of the Christian Bible--Pat Robertson
> is one of them. Just because a few loons believe something doesn't mean
> I have to buy it.
> 

It's funny you bring this up.  The thing is I am a conservative
Christian *and* a Libertarian.  I was having a converstion about this
with my Pastor a few days ago.  I was telling him that I think that laws
banning drugs, alcohol, prostitution, etc are wrong.  All those things
the liberals like to call "victimless crimes."  My point is that, while
*I* think those things are wrong, I have no right to force other people
to abstain from them.  People like Pat Robertson annoy me (Jesse Jackson
and Al Sharpton fall into the same group in my mind) because they spend
far too much time spouting off political nonesense and trying to have
political influence and not enough time preaching the Word of God.  I
mean seriously, if you are you to have "Reverend" in front of your name,
your full time occupation should not be politics.

>>
>>> I agree that social security is all sorts of screwed up, but not
>>> because it involves collecting money and spending it in ways that
>>> might not directly benefit the person paying.
>>
>>
>>     It is a large part of it because it's pretty much a fact that the
>> people
>> would have been better off with the money to invest and save on their
>> own.
> 
> 
> No they are not. A few, knowledgeable individuals *might* be better off,
> or they might screw up and choose the wrong investments and lose most of
> it.
> 
So, you believe that people are fundamentally stupid and need the
government to babysit them?

> The idea behind the Social Security system is that you shouldn't have to
> know anything about stocks, bond or any other securities to have your
> retirement protected.
> 
That is why you hire someone who is an expert to do it for you.

> And your retirement money shouldn't be entirely dependent upon the
> twists and turns of the business cycle.
> 
If you are smart they won't.  Even if you are not smart, if you have the
wherewithal to hire someone who is, they won't.

>>
>>     Income taxes, hell yes.  Consumption taxes levied equally upon
>> all?  No.
>>
> 
> Consumption taxes are a regressive (targeting the poor) idea that the
> Right Wing has touted for years.
> 

For an example of a consumption tax that is super-advantageous to the
poor, please go review the FiarTax.

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sanchez
http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto

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