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Re: weird fam/samba problem



On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:59:20 -0500
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Thursday 02 February 2006 18:35, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:23:51 -0500
> >
> >Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On Thursday 02 February 2006 13:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> >On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:57:43 -0500
> >> >
> >> >Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday 01 February 2006 02:39, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> >> >Greetings;
> >> >>
> >> >> And no one has any comments to make on this?
> >> >
> >> >not a clue. why samba and not nfs?
> >>
> >> Because I have yet, despite quite a bit of expert handholding, ever
> >> been able to make NFS work for anything here.  No permissions
> >> returns is all I can get.  Also, even though the NSF starter is
> >> being run by the bootup, it always logs the message that NFS4-MTAB
> >> doesn't exist.  On the bootup screen but nowhere else in the logs. 
> >> And questions asked about that on the net have now been uniformly
> >> ignored on the major lists I haunt for about 4 years now. :(
> >
> >well, that's wierd. I've only used nfs for a few months now (slowly
> > trying to convert my house to 'doze free) and had no difficulty from
> > day one. I've certainly never seen that message before and I have one
> > machine that boots a couple times a day (mythtv with automatic
> > booting weeee!). Which side does this show on? server or client?
> 
> That would be this machine, the server.  The exact message (all the 
> setup stuff is still setup AFAIK) is:
> 
> [root@coyote etc]# service nfs restart
> Shutting down NFS mountd:                                  [FAILED]
> Shutting down NFS daemon:                                  [FAILED]
> Shutting down NFS quotas:                                  [FAILED]
> Shutting down NFS services:                                [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS services:                                     [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS quotas:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS daemon:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS mountd:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS4 idmapd: Error: RPC MTAB does not exist.

Well, I've no clue :(. But I can suggest that you might want to do away with quotas and I've no clue what the idmapd does. Can you get a regular old /etc/exports file to work with nfs-kernel-server? 


> 
> And it will repeat that manta ad infinitum.
> 
> [root@coyote etc]# service nfs restart
> Shutting down NFS mountd:                                  [  OK  ]
> Shutting down NFS daemon:                                  [  OK  ]
> Shutting down NFS quotas:                                  [  OK  ]
> Shutting down NFS services:                                [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS services:                                     [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS quotas:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS daemon:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS mountd:                                       [  OK  ]
> Starting NFS4 idmapd: Error: RPC MTAB does not exist.
> 
> A man idmapd make no mention of that file...
> 
> And in the log,
> Feb  2 19:48:20 coyote rpc.mountd: Caught signal 15, un-registering and 
> exiting.
> Feb  2 19:48:20 coyote nfs: rpc.mountd shutdown succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote kernel: nfsd: last server has exited
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote kernel: nfsd: unexporting all filesystems
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: nfsd shutdown succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: rpc.rquotad shutdown succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: Shutting down NFS services:  succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: Starting NFS services:  succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: rpc.rquotad startup succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: rpc.nfsd startup succeeded
> Feb  2 19:48:25 coyote nfs: rpc.mountd startup succeeded
> 
> and any attempt to mount the share from another machine gets a no 
> permission response that never changes.
> 
> > personally, I like nfs as it "just works" for me here. of course,
> > this is all internal to my house ona trusted lan with no protections
> > blah blah blah.
> >
> >> >FWIW, I killed fam, and
> >> >
> >> >> things seem to be working more or less normally here. Killing fam
> >> >> allowed me to umount those shares.  This is required because I
> >> >> have a script (cron) that remounts some shares daily else they
> >> >> get stale or something and quit working, or did back when I set
> >> >> that script up 5 years ago because it would quit working at odd
> >> >> times.
> >> >
> >> >is this a bug with fam? I've had some trouble umounting nfs shares
> >> > on occaision for no apparent reason, though umount -l does the
> >> > trick.
> >>
> >> But what happens then if the share is to be immediatelty remounted,
> >> like my little daily insurance cron script does.?
> >
> >don't know, but if its fam that is causing it to be busy, I don't
> > think its a big deal. but I know less than nothing about fam and how
> > it works.
> 
> I can vouch for the fact that fam DOESN'T like to have a share its 
> watching get rebooted, because then you have to reboot the box fam is 
> running on in order to be able to mount that share anew.  That it isn't 
> handling its errors at all well, plus I've NDI what starts it when I 
> reboot this box, makes fam less than worthless to me.
> 
> Yes, IMO it (fam) needs help if its to be helpfull in the long view.
> 
> Ssh used to be that way too, but it now cleans up after itself rather 
> nicely since a year or so back.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
> 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> 
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