Re: newbies needing help for graphic login
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:21:58PM +0100, Joris Huizer wrote:
} Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
} >see my other note on this: why isn't (and I know NOTHING about the
} >installer so bear with me) knoppix type detection done by the installer?
} >There should be NOTHING that knoppix does that Debian can't do at install
} >time, excepting kernel modules that are to far up the chain still. IOW,
} >the installer should do a knoppix style detection and then test itself:
} >"Dear user, the installer has detected a reasonable setup for your GUI. We
} >will now switch to that GUI and if it works, you will be prompted to
} >continue the installation. If it doesn't work, the installer will revert
} >to this interface after XX seconds and will walk you through a reconfigure
} >fo the X window system."
}
} I think the knoppix installer uses some x86-specific tools that the
} debian crew does not really like -- those were taken from redhat I
} thought; note that the new debian installer is able to do a lot more
} autodetection on the X configuration than the old one (that is, the old
} one didn't try to do any it seemed) -- though in the end I did survive
} that (after needing to compile & use the nvidia driver to get X running,
} which was not the nicest part of the install for a newbie ;-))
[...]
The important part is x86-specific, not redhat. Knoppix is an x86 live
distro. Debian is fully supported on x86, PPC, PA-RISC, Sparc, MIPS (I
think), and others (I think DEC Alpha and IA64 are in there, but I'm too
lazy to check right now). It is gaining support for x86-64. The Knoppix
folks (and Redhat, for that matter) have put a lot of effort into
autodetection for x86, but without comparable facilities for all the other
supported hardware platforms the consequences of including it in the
installer would be to relegate those other platforms to second-class
citizenship. That simply isn't how Debian is run.
--Greg
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