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Re: newbies needing help for graphic login



On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:39:52 -0500
Gregory Seidman <gsslist+debian@anthropohedron.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:21:58PM +0100, Joris Huizer wrote:
> } Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> } >see my other note on this: why isn't (and I know NOTHING about the 
> } >installer so bear with me) knoppix type detection done by the installer? 
> } >There should be NOTHING that knoppix does that Debian can't do at install 
> } >time, excepting kernel modules that are to far up the chain still. IOW, 
> } >the installer should do a knoppix style detection and then test itself: 
> } >"Dear user, the installer has detected a reasonable setup for your GUI. We 
> } >will now switch to that GUI and if it works, you will be prompted to 
> } >continue the installation. If it doesn't work, the installer will revert 
> } >to this interface after XX seconds and will walk you through a reconfigure 
> } >fo the X window system."
> } 
> } I think the knoppix installer uses some x86-specific tools that the 
> } debian crew does not really like -- those were taken from redhat I 
> } thought; note that the new debian installer is able to do a lot more 
> } autodetection on the X configuration than the old one (that is, the old 
> } one didn't try to do any it seemed) -- though in the end I did survive 
> } that (after needing to compile & use the nvidia driver to get X running, 
> } which was not the nicest part of the install for a newbie ;-))
> [...]
> 
> The important part is x86-specific, not redhat. Knoppix is an x86 live
> distro. Debian is fully supported on x86, PPC, PA-RISC, Sparc, MIPS (I
> think), and others (I think DEC Alpha and IA64 are in there, but I'm too
> lazy to check right now). It is gaining support for x86-64. The Knoppix
> folks (and Redhat, for that matter) have put a lot of effort into
> autodetection for x86, but without comparable facilities for all the other
> supported hardware platforms the consequences of including it in the
> installer would be to relegate those other platforms to second-class
> citizenship. That simply isn't how Debian is run.

yeah, good point.

A
> 
> --Greg
> 
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