Re: A few general questions from a Debian newbie
loos wrote:
> Em Ter, 2005-11-15 às 16:44 -0600, Ron Johnson escreveu:
>
>>On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:11 +0000, Antony Gelberg wrote:
>>
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>>>Andy Streich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>latest and greatest of everything. What I did find surprising after reading
>>>>>this list for a while was that stable meant not only really stable but also
>>>>>really slow release cycle. Okay, that's the price you pay for "really
>>>>>stable."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why be so hung up on release cycles? I mean, really. You know how much
>>>>attention I've paid to Debian's release cycles since installing? Well, other
>>>>than the libc5 -> glibc2 conversion, none. Again, it has to be stressed,
>>>>there is nothing that prevents the user from upgrading any package they choose
>>>>to a later version. None. At all. Stable just means it won't be updated out
>>>>from under you. That's *it*. You want newer, go get newer! Have fun!
>>>>Debian won't be upset, I promise.
>>>
>>>It's not that simple. A lot of newbies dive into testing or unstable
>>>because they "have" to have the newest stuff, then they don't know what
>>>to do when their system breaks.
>>
>>So it's Debian's *fault* that newbies whine when they make no effort
>>to read the Debian web site?
>
>
> newbie - testing is totally antinomic. It is impossible for a newbie to
> use testing reasonabl and provide the expected feedback.
>
> newbie - unstable, that's normal. If you like it that way. And they will
> learn a lot.
Why is it normal for a newbie to use unstable? It's usually an initial
period of "look at me, I'm using Debian without having to use their
cruddy old software" followed by a cry for help, either here or on IRC,
when they hose their system and can't fix it.
> For who is stable: Experts, sysadmins etc. That a fantastic base where
> you can build anything fot it and be sure you can put in production
> anywhere because the base is the same. Stable is our Solaris, in their
> sense "Stable is the most advanced distribution"
All very romantic, but not too factual.
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