On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:04:08PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 03:06:52PM +1100, Blake Swadling wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have some machines here that are routinely turned off at the power
> > > > button rather than using the correct shutdown procedure. when they are
>
> politely shoot the people that do that ... :-0 or hitting the reset
>
> - most admins get tired and start to remove the power and reset
> switches .. to avoid that problem too
>
> - which leaves you the gui to shutdown or pull the plug
> and the pc is usually under the desk or far back on the desk
>
> - lots of other ways, besides bypassing fsck'ing
> ( it's there to cover your butt .. a few seconds now will save
> ( you days, months of time to try to recover a lost file
>
> > > > restarted i get the usual error "filesystem not cleanly unmounted...".
> > > > it then checks them and prompts me to hit ctrl-d.
>
> that is a very very good thing
>
> > > > Is there any way that I can force it to immediately reboot rather than
> > > > prompting the user for input?
>
> that is an extreme bad thing, worst than those that hit the power or reset
> switch
> - its the same as "the car light came on for no water" so you
> bypass the step and disconnect the lights
>
> - one day, your disk will be too corrupted and you lose
> all your files ... or lose your car engine
>
> convience vs security is one thing ... but bypassing important time
> consuming steps is a bad bad thing
> - bypassing silly dumb steps is a good thing
>
> - knowing what's bad and what's good to bypass is up to you
>
> - and if its nothing else... use reiserfs, jfs, xfs instead
> as those are at least lot fsater at recover from power off
>
> and yup...i get lots of those "help, we lost some important files"
> for tommorrows meeting, and i say what did you do and been doing
> the past few months ...
> ( hint: did you hit reset/power to shutdown and go home )
>
Then what is the best way to make sure a box comes back up again after a
power failure without requiring user input?
I find this especially annoying on headless machines :( when it wants
a root passwd for maintenance.
cheers
dc
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