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Re: HylaFax receives rubbish



On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:52:01 -0400
Chris Metzler <cmetzler@speakeasy.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:24:06 +1000
> Clement <clement@ans.com.au> wrote:
> > Wayne Topa wrote:
> >> 
> >>On both occasions you hi-jacked another thread rather then
> >>starting a new one (bad practice).
> >
> >
> > I DID NOT hi-jack anything.
> 
> Yes, you did.

Not according to Sylpheed. Both times he started new threads

> > If the subject I used is the same as a 
> > previous email, it is pure coincidence.  I will search the archives.
> >  
> > Please do not assume too much.
> 
> Hijacking a thread has *nothing* to do with using a subject that's the
> same as an earlier thread or message.
> 
> Hijacking a thread is when one posts a message on a new topic,
> with a new subject line, by "Replying" to an existing message in
> the list rather than by posting an entirely new message.
> 
> The first time you posted your HylaFax problems, you did so by
> replying to a post of Paul Condon's in the "ALSA setup problem"
> thread.  This is made clear by the "References:" header in that
> email:
> 
> } From: Clement <clement@ans.com.au>
> } Subject: HylaFax receives rubbish
> } References: <[🔎] 20040801181244.GB7490@mesanetworks.net> 
> <[🔎] 20040802093514.3b4154b6@stax>
> <[🔎] 20040803021234.GA1047@mesanetworks.net>}
> } Just tried Hylafax.  After spending hours to play around, I finally
> got
> 			[ snip ]
> 
> If you had simply sent a "new" message, rather than replying, no
> "References:" header would be present.  That header tells mail
> software that your message is a reply to another message, which had
> Message ID <[🔎] 20040803021234.GA1047@mesanetworks.net> (which in turn
> was a reply to a message with Message ID
> <[🔎] 20040802093514.3b4154b6@stax> and so on).  In other words, in that
> thread, I replied to Paul Condon, he replied to me, and then you
> replied to him -- but with a new subject line, and a topic of
> discussion that had nothing to do with the topic previously discussed
> in the thread.  That's hijacking a thread.
> 
> Similarly, your other post was a reply to a post by Pascal Hakim,
> in the thread 'can't post to "linux.debian.user" "solved"'.  Your
> references header there was:
> 
> } References: <[🔎] 87657e4w8d.fsf@jidanni.org>
> <[🔎] 20040819234322.GA23117@wonderland.linux.it>
> <[🔎] slrn-0.9.7.4-7239-20102-200408201550-tc@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au>
> <[🔎] 20040820083236.GA4620@wonderland.linux.it>
> <[🔎] cg4p76$8fc$1@sea.gmane.org>
> <[🔎] 1093009996.6678.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
> <[🔎] slrn-0.9.7.4-3238-31964-200408211523-tc@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au>
> <[🔎] 20040825094149.GA17728@master.debian.org>
> 
> That, too, was hijacking a thread.
> 
> Incidentally, this one -- the one you posted in reply to Pascal
> Hakim -- was the one that Wayne Topa replied to, letting you know
> what was up.  Your reply to him, however, had "References:" assigned
> to it so that it's indexed as a reply to yourself, in the *other*
> thread.
> 
> It looks like you're having some difficulties with your mail
> reader.
> 
> -c
> 


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