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Re: HylaFax receives rubbish



On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:24:06 +1000
Clement <clement@ans.com.au> wrote:
> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> 
>>On both occasions you hi-jacked another thread rather then
>>starting a new one (bad practice).
>
>
> I DID NOT hi-jack anything.

Yes, you did.


> If the subject I used is the same as a 
> previous email, it is pure coincidence.  I will search the archives.  
> Please do not assume too much.

Hijacking a thread has *nothing* to do with using a subject that's the
same as an earlier thread or message.

Hijacking a thread is when one posts a message on a new topic,
with a new subject line, by "Replying" to an existing message in
the list rather than by posting an entirely new message.

The first time you posted your HylaFax problems, you did so by
replying to a post of Paul Condon's in the "ALSA setup problem"
thread.  This is made clear by the "References:" header in that
email:

} From: Clement <clement@ans.com.au>
} Subject: HylaFax receives rubbish
} References: <[🔎] 20040801181244.GB7490@mesanetworks.net>  <[🔎] 20040802093514.3b4154b6@stax> <[🔎] 20040803021234.GA1047@mesanetworks.net>
}
} Just tried Hylafax.  After spending hours to play around, I finally got
			[ snip ]

If you had simply sent a "new" message, rather than replying, no
"References:" header would be present.  That header tells mail
software that your message is a reply to another message, which had
Message ID <[🔎] 20040803021234.GA1047@mesanetworks.net> (which in turn
was a reply to a message with Message ID <[🔎] 20040802093514.3b4154b6@stax>
and so on).  In other words, in that thread, I replied to Paul
Condon, he replied to me, and then you replied to him -- but with
a new subject line, and a topic of discussion that had nothing to
do with the topic previously discussed in the thread.  That's
hijacking a thread.

Similarly, your other post was a reply to a post by Pascal Hakim,
in the thread 'can't post to "linux.debian.user" "solved"'.  Your
references header there was:

} References: <[🔎] 87657e4w8d.fsf@jidanni.org> <[🔎] 20040819234322.GA23117@wonderland.linux.it> <[🔎] slrn-0.9.7.4-7239-20102-200408201550-tc@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au> <[🔎] 20040820083236.GA4620@wonderland.linux.it> <[🔎] cg4p76$8fc$1@sea.gmane.org> <[🔎] 1093009996.6678.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <[🔎] slrn-0.9.7.4-3238-31964-200408211523-tc@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au> <[🔎] 20040825094149.GA17728@master.debian.org>

That, too, was hijacking a thread.

Incidentally, this one -- the one you posted in reply to Pascal
Hakim -- was the one that Wayne Topa replied to, letting you know
what was up.  Your reply to him, however, had "References:" assigned
to it so that it's indexed as a reply to yourself, in the *other*
thread.

It looks like you're having some difficulties with your mail
reader.

-c

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