Re: More detailed post ...
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:38:25PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > This isn't standard, nor is it a good idea. (Yahoo Groups is the only
> > place I know of that still uses it).
> >
>
> mailman and ezmlm both do this. i'm not sure if it is the default, or
> it is just the case on the mailing lists that i'm subscribed to.
It's just the case on the groups you subscribe to.
> > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
> >
>
> i hadn't read that, and it brings up a number of points I hadn't
> considered, but the majority of them are along the lines of "elm has a
> reply-to-list function, so this isn't a problem". however, it is a
> problem in many (popular) mailers which don't have a reply-to-list
> function.
Then many popular mailers are broken and should be fixed. Sadly, many
popular mailers are not open source and thus this step is much more
difficilt than it should be.
> > Instead of breaking the list, you should either switch to a mailer
> > that supports replying to mailing lists, or bitch at your current
> > vendor to fix it. Mailing lists have been around for, what, 30+ years
> > now? Missing a reply-to-list function should definately be considered
> > a bug by now. Treat it as such.
>
> my mailer has a reply-to-list function, so i don't need to complain to
> my vendor. someone should complain to mozilla, netscape and microsoft
> though, since their mail software doesn't support this function.
See above.
> > > mutt does this, netscape/mozilla does this and evolution does this.
> >
> > Mutt does not do this.
>
> mutt apparently has a reply-to-list function that i was unaware of. (g,
> instead of r)
Check out 'L'
> > > if you are going to be complaining to anyone, you should complain to
> > > whomever runs lists.debian.org, not to the people who accidentially (or
> > > unknowingly) send a "reply to all" whenever they post to this list.
> >
> > No. The list is behaving properly. Deal.
>
> i'm fine with that, but i don't see a point in berating people whose
> mailers make it difficult to reply to the list.
All debian lists have a "code of conduct" which among other things
discourages Cc:s unless they are explicitly requested. I'd be a lot
happier if more mailing lists made this request. It's too bad
subscribers aren't forced to acknowledge that they have read and agree
to abide by the code.
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Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:nnorman@incanus.net
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte
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