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Re: Where is Debian going?



>>>>> "Sven" == Sven Heinicke <sven@research.nj.nec.com> writes:

Sven> I'm not a linux newbie but I am a debion newbie.  I would of
Sven> gotten into it a year ago had woody install docs beed easily found
Sven> from the web site.

I don't think woody was even installable a year ago.  You would have
needed to start with potato, edited /etc/apt/sources.list, and then done
a dist-upgrade.

(Although woody probably should have been released about a year ago.
The problems have been well documented, and I believe the developers
will be discussing it after they all recover from the big parties
they'll have to celebrate woody's release, which should be real soon
now.)

Ooh.  I just looked at the Debian web page again.
http://www.debian.org/releases/ actually contains some really nice
information about what each release phase is, including FAQ pointers to
"what is ``testing''  and how it becomes ``stable''".  The testing page,
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ contains basically all the
information (or pointers to the information) that you would need to know
to upgrade from potato to woody.  (Sure, a lot of that is wrapped in the
"Read the apt-get(8) and the sources.list(5) manual pages for more
information." statement at the bottom, but anyone running testing had
better be comfortable reading man pages.)

Sven> I followed the docs, installed potato and I thought Debian sucked
Sven> because of the 2.2 kernel and other things.  Not until a couple of
Sven> months ago a new debion fan programmer started working here and
Sven> hand held me through the first couple steps.  Now I'm a fan
Sven> running woody!  Sven

The thing about Debian is that breakages most commonly occur in the
packaging, rather than the programs themselves.  "stable" means that no
such breakages will occur.  In testing, such breakages should be rarer
than unstable, but may still occur.  If you aren't running stable, you
should either know about how Debian does things, or have a local guru to
help you through problems.

While in your case, you might have been able to worked through problems
on your own (or been lucky enough to not run into any problems), I think
that Debian wants to take the more cautious approach, and let newbies
just run stable, and by the time you hear about testing, you know how
the system works.

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