Re: Direct rendering: No
I hate to go with a 'me, too' post - but me, too. :)
Seriously, though - don't simply disable somthing that people are using -
give the user a choice as to what behavior s?he wants.
I too use the 3D support for Creator3D on an older kernel. If I had upgraded
and found the support removed, I would be just as peeved.
I'm sure there are people who will love to make use of the render extension.
Fine - if you can't have both working simultaniously, then let us choose
at compile time (module load time?) which behavior we want to have.
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 05:51:15PM -0400, JLB said:
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:51:15 -0400 (EDT)
> From: JLB <jlb@twu.net>
> To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
> Cc: erwann.abalea@certplus.com, debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Direct rendering: No
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> That is a truly lovely alternative for people with money.
>
> Also, the only good ATI drivers are closed-source and x86-only. Some of us
> care about such things.
>
> Many people on this list doubtless are quite poor (I know I am) and merely
> have an old surplus Sparc given by a friend. It is quite insulting to say
> "Well, we turned off all accelerated 3D support so you can have pretty
> fonts, without giving you a choice as to which you find a higher priority;
> if you don't like it, spend 3.5 kilodollars on some fancy-schmantzy Sun
> hardware AND write your own drivers, or just switch to x86."
>
> Frankly, I'd rather have accelerated 3D than pretty fonts. Why have a 3D
> workstation if it's just about useless for 3D? (And DON'T even TRY telling
> me that software OpenGL rendering is "good enough", or anything more than
> "absolute crap".)
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, David S. Miller wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:45:42 -0700
> > From: David S. Miller <davem@redhat.com>
> > To: JLB <jlb@twu.net>
> > Cc: erwann.abalea@certplus.com, debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Direct rendering: No
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT)
> > JLB <jlb@twu.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Suggest an alternative then. One with 3D acceleration support -and- nice
> > > font support.
> >
> > An x86 system with an ATI Radeon :-)
> >
> > For sparc64, no such options exist currently until someone gets
> > the ATI Radeon support working on that platform. If I personally
> > had a SB1500 I'd be working on that myself, but at $3000 USD
> > it's out of my price range for fun toys to play with currently.
>
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