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Re: Debian should not engage in politics and stay neutral [was: This is not the direction that will lead to hearing each other]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 12:48:30AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:11:11PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:

> > Please, let's first agree that it's not (only) about his 'personal view on some
> > topics'. Most people defending RMS on this list seem to have suddenly
> > s/actions/views/g in their spell checker. So, just to put words back to their
> > place: it's about his incessant *actions* over the years, which may or may not
> > been directly connected with his (publicly stated) views. And his *actions*,
> > and not his views alone, have hurt the community in many many ways. And this
> > community is about software freedom, the thing you said you believe on, and the
> > thing that keeps you motivated to contribute to Debian.
> >...

> This community would not exist without the actions of RMS.

> RMS founded the free software movement.
> RMS created the GNU project.
> RMS wrote emacs for the GNU project.
> RMS wrote gcc for the GNU project.
> RMS wrote gdb for the GNU project.
> RMS wrote the GPL.
> RMS founded the FSF.

> Linus Torvalds originally used a non-free licence for Linux,
> before switching to the GPL.
> The core of Debian are the tools from the GNU project.
> In the early days of Debian, RMS through the FSF employed
> the DPL full-time for his work on Debian.

> An open letter stating there would be "no place in the free software 
> community" for RMS is hugely offensive for many people who are aware
> that the free software community would not exist without RMS.

> RMS has always been a polarizing figure in the 38 years since he founded 
> the free software movement, but the same traits that make him difficult
> are the reason why he stubbornly created this community against all
> obstacles.

Microsoft catalyzed the democratization of the Internet by contributing to
the boom of low-cost commodity PCs; and without the rise of the Internet,
the Free Software movement would not have taken off.

Should we therefore put Bill Gates on a pedestal due to his historic
contributions to the rise of Free Software, ignoring all negatives?

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                   https://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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