Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

[Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>]

On July 25, 2019 9:46:08 AM UTC, Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> wrote:
> ❦ 24 juillet 2019 21:29 +00, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>:
>
>>>> This entire discussion feels to me like a small group of developers
>>>> trying to tell the rest of us "my way or the highway". We are
>>>> perfectly capable of phasing out obsolete workflows without a
>hammer
>>>> like a GR (remember dpatch).
>>>
>>>Without a GR, the outcome is decided by a shouting contest. A GR
>seeems
>>>great to know if people are a majority or not.
>>
>> 50% + 1 of developers mandating details like this to 50% - 1 of
>> developers is a horrible way to solve problems like this.
>
>Still better than 10% mandating details like this to 90%.
>
>> If you want people to do things a certain way, have it solve problems
>> that cause people to decide they want to use it. Once you get rough
>> consensus on the new way, change policy.
>
>So, this is the shouting contest. A few people can post messages and
>make it appear there is no consensus.

Usually consensus doesn't magically appear.  It takes work.  At this juncture none exists.  The idea of solving this via GR seems to me like an attempt to avoid doing that work.

I'm curious who from amongst those pushing for this is volunteering to put all the QA maintained packages in git (or should those be removed)?  If you are going to mandate this, then I think those are the only two options.

Scott K