Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process
On 09/03/2014 07:21 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> writes:
>> Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> wrote:
>
>>> How do you suppose we keep the atmosphere from devolving back to
>>> the poisonous flame-fest days, and enforce various codes of conduct
>>> policies? I have seen far too many tech conferences without codes of
>>> conduct devolve into misogynistic and occasionally racist
>>> experiences. The argument that codes of conduct are forms of censorship
>>> is frequently made, but, I am afraid, not very convincingly.
>
>> None of those things are at issue in this case. It's not relevant.
>
> What case? Ian raised a bunch of general questions about how we plan on
> enforcing our CoC, with no reference to any specific incident. You seem
> to be convinced that this is about some specific incident and, further,
> about forcing some specific action about that specific incident, but so
> far as I can tell, this belief on your part is not based on anything
> that's been said in this mailing list.
Hmm, how can you argue this with the statement that we should not invite
Linus on future conferences?
> Even if you're right and this is all inspired by some specific incident,
> the general questions are still worth discussing seriously in their own
> right. There's no need to dismiss the entire conversion (or, worse, be
> flippant about it in a way that implies that Debian doesn't care about the
> experience of people on its mailing lists or at its conferences) just
> because you *think* you disagree with the motives of the person who raised
> the issues.
True, but it's also unfair to dismiss the specific case because you want
to take it broader.
Cheers
Luk
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