Re: Switching the default startup method
Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz <bernd@bzed.de> writes:
>
>> - it was never properly discussed and accepted before. If we switch to a
>> dependency based boot system, why to this mess from SuSE called insserv?
>
> There was a *ton* of discussion of insserv across multiple mailing lists
> over a period of at least months and I think years. I'm really not sure
> what more you could be asking for.
A simple announcement to d-d-a that the change is actually planned to happen
soon, that the new binaries with all dependencies were uploaded to experimental
and that it is *now* time to test it. There are a lot of things discussed on a
lot of mailing lists, if everything discussed there would be implemented asap we
could never have a stable release.
>>> The fact that symlinks have to be changed by hand whenever one daemon
>>> gains a dependency on another, possibly in cascading fashion, is one
>>> such bug.
>
>> That's indeed an issue, but one which was never a big problem to
>> handle.
>
> Er, it certainly has been for the packages that I've been involved in
> maintaining. For one of them (openldap) there is no useful choice that
> makes everyone happy because the necessary dependencies can't be reduced
> to a simple numerical ordering without way too much cascading change.
If there is no useful choice tat makes everybody happy, how is insserv supposed
to help here? It will find an automatic choice, which won't make everybody happy.
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