Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 09:30:46AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Adam McKenna <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > The point is that we shouldn't impose stupid restrictions that we have no
> > chance in hell of enforcing anyway. [...]
> Even if consultants@ think they could enforce it somehow (and I am on
> other listings which monitor and reward return links), I still wouldn't
> agree straight off. Would you?
Considering that it takes two months to even get an entry added to the list
at this time, I don't see active monitoring of consultant sites happening
in the near future, if that's what you're asking. But even if we had the
manpower to monitor it perfectly, it's still a dumb restriction.
> 1. the consultants list is software;
It is certainly not very featureful software. But if it is indeed software,
then IMHO some enhancements to its utility would be far more useful than
having a bunch of dumb restrictions on who can be listed. Things like
ratings, a comment area for each consultant, etc. would have quite a bit more
value than "these are all consultants who agreed to put a link to Debian on
their web site".
> That's a lot of DDs you're trying to exclude from the discussion.
> If you're arguing about this restriction and you ever use debian
> or suggest it to anyone, you should consider that conflict of interest
> and leave the discussion...
I don't see how that logically follows. Anyone who is not listed on the
consultants page has no conflict of interest in this discussion, as far as I
can tell, whether they use Debian or not.
> ...or you could just document where you're coming from on a web
> page linked from your sig. I think that's more honest. Nearly
> everyone has multiple interests we can't really leave behind.
I'm trying to approach this from the perspective of a Debian user who is
perusing the consultants list in search of a Debian consultant. As this
hypothetical user, I may or may not be concerned about whether the companies
on the list explicitly mention Debian on their websites. If I care, then I
will 'vote with my dollars', and choose one that does. If I don't care,
then I probably will use other factors to make my decision. The bottom line
is that Debian should be providing as complete a list as possible, without
imposing a lot of red tape and restrictions on the consultants.