also sprach Anthony Towns <email@example.com> [2005.02.17.1307 +0100]: > Can you possibly conceive there might perhaps be some other > explanation for why I'm not writing tediously long emails or > involved in heated debates about what changes to the archive > should or shouldn't happen? Sure I can; which is why I wanted to discuss APT 0.6 outside of the "hostile environment" > Because I've done that in the past, Yeah? When? > and all it results is people saying "ah, well, being insulting at > worst has no drawbacks, and at best prods those idiots into some > action; let's be insulting more often". Be pro-active then! Don't wait for the insults. Send information before they come in. > For that matter, I'd be interested to see where Joey or others started > out by calling you a member of a cabal, To my knowledge, noone did. I am not even sure what you are trying to say. If I were a member of the cabal, then you would talk to me differently? If I were a member of the cabal, then you would insult me no more than you expect me to insult you? I find it somewhat disturbing that the cabal even exists. Is Debian a two-class society? Many people are by far more experienced with the inner workings of Debian, and thus they hold positions of influence. However, all the cabal does it prevent other people, who did not have the chance of building up the Debian imperium, from gaining this experience so that they may one day step up the ladder and take over the influential positions. Stop taking this personal, for $DEITY's sake, aj. There are people who want information from you, and those people have a right to this information because it is *our* project, not yours. Give it to them. Instead, you harp on how we all have no social competence and bash and insult wherever we can. How about fixing the problem at the root, rather than fighting symptoms? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <firstname.lastname@example.org> : :' : proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver!
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